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Old 29-08-20, 07:01 PM
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Default Original WW2 OR/EM DCLI cap badge?

I'm sorry for asking a basic question. I'm not a specialist collector and just wish to have an example of an original WW2 Duke of Cornwall Light Infantry EM/OR camp badge as would have been worn in WW2. Is this one? How does one tell from a postwar? Thank you in advance for the help!
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Old 30-08-20, 12:00 AM
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Early badges with sliders had longer and usually thinner sliders with distinct crimp marks at the bend. WW2 badges usually had sliders as seen on yours, but not always. I would say that yours is likely a ww2 era badge, and what I mean by "era" is that it is impossible to know if it was made in 1940 or 1950.
Keep in mind that badges made in ww1 were still in wear during ww2 as well, if the design had not changed as in the case of the DCLI.
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Old 30-08-20, 06:27 AM
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I would say your badge is a modern copy, but there are plenty of originals about for this regiment, and I'm sure a member will point you towards one soon.
If not, eBay seller 2747andy has a couple.

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Old 30-08-20, 07:30 AM
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An extremely common badge, do not pay more than £7-8 for one.
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Old 31-08-20, 02:51 AM
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Guys, thank you very much for your help. If it is a copy then I do not want to keep it. Looking at it, the patination looks correct, that is, something modern I wouldn't expect that. I paid $16 USD for it, shipped, so that's three higher end beers at a bar. I'd like an original WW2 badge.
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Old 31-08-20, 10:12 AM
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That is an absolutely original badge in my opinion. No worries there.

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Old 31-08-20, 10:32 AM
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That is an absolutely original badge in my opinion. No worries there.

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The badge is from the same die but an earlier strike of this little eBay gem https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DUKE-OF-C...c6c8%7Ciid%3A1 . Note the flaw in the mouthpiece’s rim at 5 o’clock.

Some DCLI repros are very convincing from the front.

The badge post #1 has awful reverse detail and a modern slider. It’s seen as much of WW2 and army service as I have... which is zero.
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Old 31-08-20, 01:40 PM
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Thank you. I mod the K98k forum and we get situations where it’s good vs. bad and then that is hashed out. I don’t get in much trouble as long as I stay in my area of collecting. British cap badges are not. I presumed at at $16 shipped, given how common these are, that they weren’t reproduced to a great degree of quality. I guess in my field I know that even the mundane is reproduced now. So this badge I posted is a repro or WW2 era? I appreciate the assistance.
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I see that die flaw now. The slider is not the typical fake. Many ww2 era sliders are indistinguishable from those used on some fakes and I think many actually are genuine sliders.

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Thank you. I mod the K98k forum and we get situations where it’s good vs. bad and then that is hashed out. I don’t get in much trouble as long as I stay in my area of collecting. British cap badges are not. I presumed at at $16 shipped, given how common these are, that they weren’t reproduced to a great degree of quality. I guess in my field I know that even the mundane is reproduced now. So this badge I posted is a repro or WW2 era? I appreciate the assistance.
It's a repro.
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Old 31-08-20, 04:27 PM
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Essentially every WW2 era British army cap badge has been reproduced in often vast quantities.

My advice is research before you buy, even the most mundane like a KC RAF, RASC or RA produced in hundreds of thousands or even pushing a million during their period of wear, have been reproduced.

Your badge as I alluded in my previous post is a very typical reproduction.
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Good example In the link below. Pricey, but I’ve bought from the dealer before and been happy.

https://www.britishmilitarybadges.co...-badge-32.html

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Good example In the link below. Pricey, but I’ve bought from the dealer before and been happy.

https://www.britishmilitarybadges.co...-badge-32.html

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Overpriced by almost 50% and the seller is an a**.

On eBay currently there are numerous genuine examples for £7 or £8.

Alternatively there are many members on this forum who I’m sure may well have one of these in their spare box, why not place a wanted ad in the classifieds?
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Overpriced by almost 50% and the seller is an a**.

On eBay currently there are numerous genuine examples for £7 or £8.

Alternatively there are many members on this forum who I’m sure may well have one of these in their spare box, why not place a wanted ad in the classifieds?
Sorry Luke- didn’t realise he had a bad rep.

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I think I got it right with these. The top right example has particularly well defined detail and is on very toned loops - Edwardian?
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