British & Commonwealth Military Badge Forum

Recent Books by Forum Members

   

Go Back   British & Commonwealth Military Badge Forum > British Military Insignia > Infantry (& Guards) Badges

 Other Pages: Galleries, Links etc.
Glossary  Books by Forum Members     Canadian Pre 1914    CEF    CEF Badge Inscriptions   Canadian post 1920     Canadian post 1953     British Cavalry Badges     Makers' Marks    Pipers' Badges  Canadian Cloth Titles  Books  SEARCH
 
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 21-07-22, 05:17 PM
Luke H's Avatar
Luke H Luke H is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Londoner in exile
Posts: 5,948
Default On A Roll

A trio of hens teeth I’m greatly indebted to a forum member for.

First a 14th Bn (Young Citizens) Royal Irish Rifles. Remarkably scarce in GM and first one I’ve seen on a slider.

Second is a real oddity, an all GM Manchester Regiment with tagged construction. It’s from the same die as this BM version I’d always suspected as WW1 manufacture. A factory mistake or something else I wonder?

Third the Royal Devon Yeomanry RFA, worn for only about 11 months.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 21-07-22, 07:08 PM
Home Guard's Avatar
Home Guard Home Guard is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: Tennessee
Posts: 2,761
Default

Always makes one's day when you get goodies you've been looking for. Very nice! There truly are some great people on this forum!!!

Terry
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 21-07-22, 08:15 PM
3dg's Avatar
3dg 3dg is online now
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 1,834
Default

Devon Yeomanry RFA, very nice!

Chris
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 22-07-22, 10:12 PM
Luke H's Avatar
Luke H Luke H is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Londoner in exile
Posts: 5,948
Default

Thanks very much gents. The Devon RFA is especially pleasing, the last genuine one I could find online was sold via DNW in 2012.

For the member who contacted me close ups as promised.

I would be keen to hear any thoughts on the Manchester Regiment conundrum.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 23-07-22, 04:35 PM
Phil2M's Avatar
Phil2M Phil2M is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Essex
Posts: 6,315
Default

Am I missing something about the Devon Yeomanry badge, is it a variant?

I've seen loads of them. I bought one on ebay in 2015.

Edit: learn something everyday, I hadn't realised that there are RFA and Artillery variants of the badge.

Mine is RFA, I need to find Artillery examples now.
__________________
"Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts."
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 23-07-22, 06:32 PM
Luke H's Avatar
Luke H Luke H is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Londoner in exile
Posts: 5,948
Default

It is indeed Phil.

The RDY RFA was short lived, there are loads on eBay all fakes from the Martin Marsh catalogue die.

There is another more convincing die I’ve seen but Keith Hook tells me it’s a good fake, albeit I admit they would fool me. Notwithstanding my example is same die as the one in KK and Keith’s collection so no nagging doubts.

The later badge was the RDYA which is found in GM and bronzed finish. Genuine examples are quite common. Also found with solid and voided centres.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 23-07-22, 08:02 PM
cbuehler's Avatar
cbuehler cbuehler is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 3,403
Default

A nice lot. It looks like I have passed up some solid center RDYA in past as I had thought them bad

CB
__________________
"We seldom learn the true want of what we have till it is discovered that we can have no more." Sam. Johnson
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 23-07-22, 08:17 PM
Luke H's Avatar
Luke H Luke H is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Londoner in exile
Posts: 5,948
Default

The majority of genuine RDYA’s have solid centres CB. They’re made by Gaunt, Firmin and Smith & Wright.

From memory I recall seeing several voided examples with the later Firmin mark and type sliders.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 23-07-22, 09:31 PM
Phil2M's Avatar
Phil2M Phil2M is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Essex
Posts: 6,315
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Luke H View Post
It is indeed Phil.

The RDY RFA was short lived, there are loads on eBay all fakes from the Martin Marsh catalogue die.

There is another more convincing die I’ve seen but Keith Hook tells me it’s a good fake, albeit I admit they would fool me. Notwithstanding my example is same die as the one in KK and Keith’s collection so no nagging doubts.

The later badge was the RDYA which is found in GM and bronzed finish. Genuine examples are quite common. Also found with solid and voided centres.
Thanks Luke

The Martin Marsh is an obvious one as it has the chunky lion. I am pretty happy with my one.

I also need to find a QC, a bronzed KC RDYA and a voided example now
__________________
"Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts."
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 23-07-22, 09:48 PM
Luke H's Avatar
Luke H Luke H is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Londoner in exile
Posts: 5,948
Default

Yes that’s right, the fat awkward lion is the Marsh one, it’s practically the same on both his RDY RFA and RDYA fake efforts.

The metal QC version misspelt ‘YEOMARY’ was quickly withdrawn and is also quite scarce. They do turn up though, happy hunting!

Think I forgot to mention above the voided versions are post WW2.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 24-07-22, 06:34 AM
dubaiguy's Avatar
dubaiguy dubaiguy is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Scotland
Posts: 972
Default

Phil
Two RDYA that I just happened to be photographing and logging and thought it might be helpful to share. This voided later one has a Firmin mark on a short slider.
The light in the photograph has not been kind to either, but they are just for my own records.
Hope they assist you in finding one.
Mark
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMG_5128.jpg (53.9 KB, 39 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_5129.jpg (44.6 KB, 24 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_5130.jpg (39.2 KB, 14 views)
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 24-07-22, 10:27 AM
billy's Avatar
billy billy is online now
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Carterton (RAF Brize-Norton) Oxfordshire
Posts: 2,595
Default Royal Devonshire Yeomanry - Artillery

I have this Blackened brass version as Phil need to keep my eyes open for the Voided version and also a R.F.A. have seen about six since Luke posted his own finds!

If this is wrong please say so, but have had for decades so pretty sure it’s fine???

All the best billy
Attached Images
File Type: jpeg 434005E8-5308-4EB0-87DD-D32D24D05FB0.jpeg (115.7 KB, 29 views)
File Type: jpg B321CC2C-EEB0-40F7-82A7-F46A1C03AE01.jpg (51.4 KB, 16 views)
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 24-07-22, 10:33 AM
Luke H's Avatar
Luke H Luke H is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Londoner in exile
Posts: 5,948
Default

Absolutely fine with that one Billy.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 24-07-22, 10:36 AM
billy's Avatar
billy billy is online now
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Carterton (RAF Brize-Norton) Oxfordshire
Posts: 2,595
Default

That’s quick Luke you’re sitting poised to pounce!!!
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 24-07-22, 11:05 AM
3dg's Avatar
3dg 3dg is online now
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 1,834
Default

There's a misspelt 'Yeomary'DY on Mike's site,QM'smilitaria.
Chris
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

mhs link

All times are GMT. The time now is 03:52 PM.


Powered by: vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.