Johore badge

[Khyber]

Is this badge ok. The front looks ok but the verdigris on the back and the new shiny copper lugs make me think. Others here have cautioned that these are pointers that all may not be well. Opinions please.

[cbuehler]

I can't see anything wrong with this badge whatsoever. The lugs are fine. It is of course a British made example and rather scarce to say the least!

CB

[Khyber]

Originally Posted by cbuehler

I can't see anything wrong with this badge whatsoever. The lugs are fine. It is of course a British made example and rather scarce to say the least!

CB

Yes, it does look good. But there are any number of badges in this section which look equally good, but because of the verdigris on the reverse and shiny copper lugs have been pronounced as fakes. How can one be certain?

[Sonofacqms]

From the pics on screen and it is only a screen image we are looking at and not actually having the badge to inspect, I would say that the lugs look OK with a surplus of what looks like metal polish on the reverse. The rectangular blowholes look to me OK as well.

It depends what the asking price is for this badge, it is as CB says a scarce item and not one that turns up every day.

Rob

[Khyber]

Originally Posted by Sonofacqms

From the pics on screen and it is only a screen image we are looking at and not actually having the badge to inspect, I would say that the lugs look OK with a surplus of what looks like metal polish on the reverse. The rectangular blowholes look to me OK as well.

It depends what the asking price is for this badge, it is as CB says a scarce item and not one that turns up every day.

Rob

Oh is that metal polish? Difficult to say with photos but I thought it was verdigris! But does that not affect the value of the badge. Did not know people would use so much polish on a badge or whether it was even the right bthing to do. I would probably just clean with warm water and soft cloth to take off grime if anyy. Thanks for your reoly

[cbuehler]

It is old polish as mentioned, not verdigris. Experience will tell you about lugs. The color is just one possible factor only, combined with the shape, color of the braze, and footing. The noticeably splayed feet on fakes are quite large and spade shaped, unlike what is seen on this badge. Many good badges have feet, but are much smaller (often confused with fakes), have a small rectangular shape, or no visible feet at all, but most are usually hidden or indistinct by the braze.

CB

[manchesters]

I am afraid my comments are negtive but are just my opinions.

Firstly does not show the quality of a British made Volunteer period badge.

Secondly the loops look soldered on?

Lastly the polish residue is a very common modern ploy to disguise a shiny clean rear.

If its yours wash it all off and post a clearer better picture of it without the polish.

regards

[cbuehler]

Definitely not soldered loops. I have a big screen and close examination shows the expected braze. I would be quite happy with this badge, but that is only my opinion!

CB

[Sonofacqms]

Of course surplus metal polish always should ring alarm bells, why?

Rob

[manchesters]

Originally Posted by Sonofacqms

Of course surplus metal polish always should ring alarm bells, why?

Rob

Who said that? Certainly not me.

Read it again and also research excess metal polish etc on here, you might learn something.

[Sonofacqms]

For the life of me I cannot understand how I entered the word "why?" to end that entry, my day started badly and continues

Of course surplus polish is used to give badges authenticity and cover faults.

Rob (with a bad hair day)

[Alex Rice]

I like the nice oblong vent holes, unlikely to see those on a fake badge in my opinion.
Cheers,
Alex

[Lampwick]

I would have been happy to add that to my collection way back when.