Off Topic

[CAM]

I went to the Royal Academy Summer Exhibition today. The front of the Academy contains this.

Chris

[3dg]

A really nicely made memorial, Mars and Minerva look really good.
Thank you for sharing.
Chris

[Home Guard]

Very cool!!!! I don't think it's off topic at all. I am a fan of the Artist Rifles.

Terry

[Wmr-RHB]

Originally Posted by Home Guard

Very cool!!!! I don't think it's off topic at all. I am a fan of the Artist Rifles.

Terry

I which case you can tell me I hope if it is:

• Artist Rifles
• Artists Rifles
• Atritsts' Rifles

The memorial above has the second one. You (as a fan) use the first one. I have seen used the third one also.

[mike_vee]

This site seems quite clear on spelling.

The Artists Rifles: a history of the regiment


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[Wmr-RHB]

Thanks for the link. Nice article, but I can not take it serious about the correct designations of the regiment. It only uses " Artists Rifles " as the general name.

From several sources:
Raised in 1860 as: 38th Middlesex Rifle Volunteer Corps.
In 1877: 38th Middlesex (Artists) RVC.
The 1880 renumbering made it: 20th Middlesex (Artists) RVC
Into the Territorial Force as: 28th (County of London) Battalion, The London Regiment (Artists Rifles) (TF)
etc.
etc.
Present: 21st Special Air Service Regiment (Artists) (R)

The official designation never was " Artists " or " Artists Rifles ". They were only secondary titles (but of course used by everybody, the regiment itself in the first place, as the name).

Ray Westlake in Tracing the Rifle Volunteers uses " Artists ".
Regiment.org uses " Artists " as well as " Artists' ".

I would really like to know what is correct for what period in history.

[dumdum]

Originally Posted by Home Guard

Very cool!!!! I don't think it's off topic at all. I am a fan of the Artist Rifles.

Terry

My Dad's aunt's late husband served in the Artist's during WW1. I was supposed to get his helmet that he had been wearing when hit by shrapnel but no doubt this got binned when she died.

I have some stuff from him though. His name was Winsford PEARSE. I can supply his number if anyone would like to dig around.

[leigh kitchen]

Possibly

First Name:
Winisford
Surname:
Pearse
Regiments served with:
Unit Rank Service Number
London Regiment Private 2710
London Regiment Private 760296
Archive Reference:
WO 372/15/174421
(Can be found at The National Archives in Kew, and contains First World War, War Office: Service Medal and Award Rolls Index)

[dumdum]

Hi Leigh

Many, many thanks! I was given his trio (now in safe keeping) and Princess Mary tin, which Aunt Rosemary had claimed back from the Artist's museum.

In the tin is a letter that she wrote to me at the time, telling me how the museum had been a little reluctant to return the group...

I know that it is very hit and miss but are there any soldier's papers likely to be around? Also, is there a mention of an SWB issue (there wasn't one with the grouping but I wondered if he had qualified for one, being struck on the head)?

Cheers

[High Wood]

From the Artists Rifles Roll of Honour.