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#62
09-04-23, 07:51 PM
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MARPLES & BEASLEY over BIRMINGHAM maker mark - Updated list April 2023
There seems to be a general consensus on the Forum that the maker mark MARPLES & BEASLEY over BIRMINGHAM should not appear on the sliders of 'other ranks' badges made in white metal (WM), gilding metal (GM) or bi-metal (BIM). The mark is therefore an indicator that the badge is not genuine (i.e. a fake or reproduction), or that it is perhaps a genuine badge and the mark has been added to provide spurious verisimilitude. There is also evidence that a good badge may have had a marked replacement slider added.
The following list (not exhaustive) is an attempt to cover badges that have been seen for sale and/or have been identified on this Forum by members in recent years. MARPLES & BEASLEY \ BIRMINGHAM 1st The Queen’s Dragoon Guards WM 15th Hussars 17th/21st Lancers WM 20th Hussars GM 21st Lancers (VRI) KC GM 22nd Dragoons WM 26th Hussars GM 5th Inniskilling Dragoon Guards KC WM 9th Lancers KC WM Army Air Corps KC WM Army Air Corps QC WM Artists Rifles WM Auxiliary Territorial Service KC GM Bedfordshire and Hertfordshire Regiment WM Buffs GM Control Commission Germany GM Dorset Regiment BIM Duke of Cornwall’s Light Infantry WM Duke of Lancaster’s Own Yeomanry GM Edward VII cypher KC WM East Lancashire Regiment KC BIM Fife and Forfar Yeomanry/Scottish Horse QC WM Glider Pilot Regiment KC WM Hertfordshire Yeomanry GM Highland Yeomanry QC WM Home Counties Brigade WM Infantry Training Battalions KC GM Intelligence Corps KC GM King Edward’s Horse KC WM King’s Own Royal Border Regiment BM Lanarkshire Yeomanry GM Lancashire Fusiliers BIM Life Guards GVIR (replacement slider) Manchester Regiment GM and in WM (fleur de lys) Norfolk Regiment GM North Devon Hussars KC GM North Irish Horse QC WM Northamptonshire Regiment BIM Northumberland Fusiliers GM Northumberland Fusiliers GM (seen ‘repaired’ with M&B slider) Oxfordshire & Buckinghamshire Light Infantry WM Palestine Police KC WM Parachute Regiment KC WM (crown and lion unvoided) Pioneer Corps KC GM Queen’s Own Yorkshire Yeomanry BIM Queen's Royal Regiment (West Surrey) GM Rifle Brigade KC WM Royal Dragoons BIM Royal Engineers KC GM Royal Fusiliers 1st Judean Battalion GM Royal Guernsey Light Infantry GM Royal Norfolk Regiment GM Royal Regiment of Wales BIM Royal Ulster Rifles KC WM South Staffordshire Regiment QC BIM South Staffordshire (2nd VB) KC WM Special Air Service BIM Staffordshire Yeomanry KC WM Staffordshire Yeomanry QC WM Upper Thames Patrol GM Welsh Regiment WM (2nd VB) Westmoreland & Cumberland Yeomanry GM Wiltshire Regiment AEA GM Tim
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"Manui dat cognitio vires - Knowledge gives strength to the arm" "Better to know it but not need it than to need it and not know it!" "Have more than thou showest, speak less than thou knowest." Last edited by grey_green_acorn; 17-04-23 at 09:33 PM. 
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#63
17-04-23, 09:47 PM
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12th Royal Lancers (XII PoW plumes) BIM
Sussex Yeomanry KC GM Royal Pioneer Corps KC GM Royal Wiltshire Yeomanry BIM Tim
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"Manui dat cognitio vires - Knowledge gives strength to the arm" "Better to know it but not need it than to need it and not know it!" "Have more than thou showest, speak less than thou knowest." Last edited by grey_green_acorn; 17-04-23 at 09:58 PM.
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#64
26-04-23, 08:48 PM
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"Manui dat cognitio vires - Knowledge gives strength to the arm" "Better to know it but not need it than to need it and not know it!" "Have more than thou showest, speak less than thou knowest." Last edited by grey_green_acorn; 28-04-23 at 07:34 AM.
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#65
27-04-23, 09:19 PM
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28-04-23, 07:34 AM
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Mike,
Yes anodised! Another Specsaver moment! In my defence I have just had cataract operations and can’t get new glasses for six weeks. I will remove the earlier post. Tim
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#71
19-07-23, 10:45 PM
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Luke,
Many thanks. Time to update the list again. Tim
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"Manui dat cognitio vires - Knowledge gives strength to the arm" "Better to know it but not need it than to need it and not know it!" "Have more than thou showest, speak less than thou knowest."
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#72
28-08-23, 05:35 PM
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MARPLES & BEASLEY over BIRMINGHAM maker mark - Updated list August 2023
There seems to be a general consensus on the Forum that the maker mark MARPLES & BEASLEY over BIRMINGHAM should not appear on the sliders of 'other ranks' badges made in white metal (WM), gilding metal (GM) or bi-metal (BIM). The mark is therefore an indicator that the badge is not genuine (i.e. a fake or reproduction), or that it is perhaps a genuine badge and the mark has been added to provide spurious verisimilitude. There is also evidence that a good badge may have had a marked replacement slider added.
The following list (not exhaustive) is an attempt to cover badges that have been seen for sale and/or have been identified on this Forum by members in recent years. MARPLES & BEASLEY \ BIRMINGHAM 1st The Queen’s Dragoon Guards WM 12th Lancers BIM 15th Hussars 17th/21st Lancers WM 20th Hussars GM 21st Lancers (VRI) KC GM 22nd Dragoons WM 26th Hussars GM 5th Inniskilling Dragoon Guards KC WM 9th Lancers KC WM Army Air Corps KC WM Army Air Corps QC WM Artists Rifles WM Auxiliary Territorial Service KC GM Bedfordshire and Hertfordshire Regiment WM Buffs GM Control Commission Germany GM Dorset Regiment BIM Duke of Cornwall’s Light Infantry WM Duke of Lancaster’s Own Yeomanry GM Edward VII cypher KC WM East Lancashire Regiment KC BIM Fife and Forfar Yeomanry/Scottish Horse QC WM Glider Pilot Regiment KC WM Gloucestershire Regiment WM Hertfordshire Yeomanry GM Highland Yeomanry QC WM Home Counties Brigade WM Infantry Training Battalions KC GM Intelligence Corps KC GM King Edward’s Horse KC WM King’s Colonials British American Squadron GM King’s Own Royal Border Regiment BIM Lanarkshire Yeomanry GM Lancashire Fusiliers BIM Life Guards GVIR (replacement slider) Manchester Regiment GM and in WM (fleur de lys) Military Police KC EVIIR GM Norfolk Regiment GM North Devon Hussars KC GM North Irish Horse QC WM Northamptonshire Regiment BIM Northumberland Fusiliers GM Northumberland Fusiliers GM (seen ‘repaired’ with M&B slider) Oxfordshire & Buckinghamshire Light Infantry WM Palestine Police KC WM Parachute Regiment KC WM (crown and lion unvoided) Pioneer Corps KC GM Queen’s Own Yorkshire Yeomanry BIM Queen's Royal Regiment (West Surrey) GM Rifle Brigade KC WM Royal Dragoons BIM Royal Engineers KC GM Royal Fusiliers 1st Judean Battalion GM Royal Guernsey Light Infantry GM Royal Norfolk Regiment GM Royal Regiment of Wales BIM Royal Ulster Rifles KC WM Royal Wiltshire Yeomanry BIM South Staffordshire Regiment QC BIM South Staffordshire (2nd VB) KC WM Special Air Service BIM Staffordshire Yeomanry KC WM Staffordshire Yeomanry QC WM Sussex Yeomanry KC GM Upper Thames Patrol GM Welsh Regiment WM (2nd VB) Westmoreland & Cumberland Yeomanry GM Wiltshire Regiment AEA GM Tim
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"Manui dat cognitio vires - Knowledge gives strength to the arm" "Better to know it but not need it than to need it and not know it!" "Have more than thou showest, speak less than thou knowest." Last edited by grey_green_acorn; 28-08-23 at 05:44 PM.
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#73
23-01-24, 10:03 AM
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Shropshire Yeomanry KC GM
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"Manui dat cognitio vires - Knowledge gives strength to the arm" "Better to know it but not need it than to need it and not know it!" "Have more than thou showest, speak less than thou knowest."
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#74
24-01-24, 12:42 PM
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4th/7th DG
4th/7th Royal Dragoon Guards - WM but has damage to tip of star and may have been worn?
Tim
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"Manui dat cognitio vires - Knowledge gives strength to the arm" "Better to know it but not need it than to need it and not know it!" "Have more than thou showest, speak less than thou knowest."
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#75
05-04-24, 11:25 AM
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APTC with Marples & Beasley marked slider
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