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Old 11-01-20, 07:50 PM
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Default 94th what?

Another badge from France which I assume is a unit badge, but the 94th what?
Again I would welcome any suggestions.
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94 eme Régiment d’Infanterie “Royal Bavière” 1709 Garde Impériale.French Army.
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Thanks for the identification. I assume Garde Imperiale refers to its origins.
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Old 11-01-20, 09:12 PM
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French regiments have their tradition based on the same regiments that existed earlier in the category (infantry in this case) and number since the dropping of names and the adoption of numbers in 1971 (94 in this case).

Thus this regiment started life as régiment Royal-Bavière in 1706.
In 1760 the régiment de la Dauphine (from 1747) was merged into it.
In 1780 redesignated as régiment Royal-Hesse-Darmstadt.
In 1791 as explained above: 94e régiment d’infanterie de ligne.
On the first "amalgame" the two battalions became in 1974 the nucleus of the 171e demi-brigade de bataille and the 172e demi-brigade de bataille respectively.
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In the same first amalgame the 94e demi-brigade de bataille was created.
In the second amalgame of 1796 this merged into the 2e demi-brigade d’infanterie de ligne
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In the same second amalgame the 94e demi-brigade d’infanterie de ligne was created.
In 1803 it became the 94e régiment d’infanterie de ligne.
During the first restoration it was renumber the 78th, but for the 100 days return of Napoleon it again was the 94th.
After Waterloo it was disbanded like all others.
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In 1855 the 94e régiment d’infanterie de ligne was created by redesignation of the 19e régiment d’infanterie légère. Please note that the 94th is seen as also being the tradition bearer of the 19e light indantry which itself had five (5!) incarnations since 1793.
In 1882 the words "de ligne" from all were dropped: 94e régiment d’infanterie.
The 94th had since about the 1930s a badge similar to what you show. The regiment was dissolved in 1940.
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From 1956 - 1962 the 94e régiment d’infanterie existed again and I assume your badge is from this period.
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In 1967 it was resurrected and when I understand correct, it is a training centre for urban warfare.
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BTW, I do not see any connection between this regiment and any Garde impériale (despite what is said in Wikipedia).
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Thank you Henk for this information.The Garde Impériale title is at the back of the two badges in Insignes Militaire Lavocat # in10948350.
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Thank you Henk for this information.The Garde Impériale title is at the back of the two badges in Insignes Militaire Lavocat # in10948350.
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The thing is that do not understand it. It was a Royal regiment in the time of the King's but of course not in imperial times. Also, like the Royal Scots where no guard regiment, the French Royal regiments were no guard regiments.

But as the "lineage" system the French are using has many strange consequences, I may miss something crucial here.
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Hello,

this badge is not 1956-1962 period (Algerian conflict)

The regiment is reformed in 1967 and disbanded in 1993. Your badge is a cloth badge from this period, often worn on tracksuit.

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Merci Laurent.
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Hello,

this badge is not 1956-1962 period (Algerian conflict)

The regiment is reformed in 1967 and disbanded in 1993. Your badge is a cloth badge from this period, often worn on tracksuit.

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Thanks for that. I have seen pictures of the enamel one and I doubted if this one was for the first or second post war period.

Can you shed light on the Guarde impériale connection that some seem to think this regiment has?
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I think this explains it. From Wikipédia: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/94e_r%...#Second_Empire, thus about 1970/1.
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À partir du 4e bataillon, le 94e de ligne est reformé au sein de l'armée Chanzy avec le 1er régiment des grenadiers de la Garde impériale et des prisonniers libérés. Il prend depuis cette époque le nom de régiment de la "Garde".
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Taking the 4th battailon as a starting point, the 94th line was reformed as part of the Chanzy army with the 1st regiment grenadiers of the imperial guard (of Napoleon III, who abdicated) and freed prisoners. Since this time it took the name regiment of the Guard.

Thus it seems to be part of their own traditions, but not very official.
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