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28-11-15, 02:42 PM
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ATS and CWTS Canadian Contingents
Early in the SWW, Canadian women volunteered for several British organizations. Here a Canadian woman, a member of the Canadian Women's Transport Service / Canadian Red Cross poses with two officers of the Seaforth Highlanders of Canada. Note the Canada shoulder title. Mid sleeve she has a patch that appears to be a maple leaf? Permission was also granted to the imperial ATS to recruit Canadian women for their organization. A contingent of Canadian women embarked for overseas and wore the ATS uniform It appears that there was a distinctive patch worn on their uniform. Does anyone have one of these?
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28-11-15, 03:13 PM
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....don't you recognise the officer on the left..????
Jo
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28-11-15, 05:55 PM
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Nope, but we have gone over that ground before. I am lousy at facial recognition. That is why they are developing fr software. I need it.
If I had to make a guess, Hoffmeister?
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28-11-15, 07:01 PM
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CCI "CEC" Merritt..at the time Major with the Seaforth and, I would guess that the other officer could be a younger brother....
Jo Also did you check your PM ????
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28-11-15, 07:59 PM
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As in
Lieutenant-Colonel Charles Cecil Ingersoll Merritt, VC, ED 1908 - 2000
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28-11-15, 09:15 PM
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To answer Mike_2817...Yes...
Jo
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28-11-15, 09:18 PM
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...as our friendly colleagues of this Forum would say...."...as rare as hen's teeth..."or something of the sort...
One thing to take into account Bill.....How many Canadian members, in this I guess short-lived unit...??? Jo
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28-11-15, 09:21 PM
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Quote:
Jo
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28-11-15, 09:44 PM
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From what I understand both contingents served through the war; there are no numbers given in the references. One refernce suggests a few hundred vounteers for the ATS but that doesn't mean that they all wore the Canadian leaf.
Yes, the patches are likely quite rare, but they may be "sleepers", patches that have been accumulated but one is not sure what they represent or to whom they should be attributed.
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28-11-15, 10:13 PM
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One refernce suggests a few hundred vounteers for the ATS but that doesn't mean that they all wore the Canadian leaf.
One question I would ask is....Would the the people responsible for the Fanys, authorise the wearing of the maple leaf by the Canadian members as a "special distinction" or, for the sake of iniformity no Canadian after a while wore the maple leaf ..... Jo
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29-11-15, 12:08 AM
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Jo, I am not sure why you are bringing FANY's into the discussion. The CWTS and ATS were different organizations. There is an indication that the Canada distinction was encouraged, and a mark of our Dominion's contribution to the war effort.
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29-11-15, 12:56 AM
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Bill, if you look closely to the woman's collar badge,it is,if I'm not mistaken,those of the British Women's Transport Servive of the FANY....or maybe I'm in need of new glasses...
see attached pphoto of collar badge.... http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/for...6&d=1361565307 photo from High Wood,22/02/13 Jo
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