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Victorian Soldiers (possibly members of the Victorian Rifles) - circa 1870s or 1880s
Victorian Soldiers (possibly members of the Victorian Rifles) - circa 1870s or 1880s.
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Nice find. I think the photo dates to the 1860's and is of the Victorian Volunteer Rifle Corps when both NSW and Victorian volunteers wore grey. See Monty Wedd Australian Military Uniforms 1800 -1912. Grey jackets with red piping around the collar and down the front of the jacket. Black cords across the chest, cuffs, trouser stripe and band around the kepi. Regards Chris |
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Thanks mate - sounds about right.
I'll check out the book when I get home (posted this from work). Mick
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G'day Mick & Chris
I have a copy of George Wards book Victorian Land Forces 1853 - 1883, which shows the exact same uniform and rifles being worn by the Williamstown Rifle Co C 1861, the loops on the froging are the same, they wear the same type of cap with a bugle badge. They also carry the Lancaster .577 smooth oval bore 2 band sappers and miners rifle. These were on issue to Vic vol forces, I have a rifle and bayonet with Vic markings. They also wear a plain brown leather belt with a snake clasp ( which I also have with sword slings & a sword to go with it !) The trousers also have a broad (red ?) stripe as in your photo. Mick I will add a couple of scans to what I going to email. All for now. Regards Phil. |
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Another lovely photo, Mick. Well done, once again. They must have looked pretty fancy out on parades in that gear.
The rifles certainly do look like Lancaster rifles, probably reduced bore type, that were widely issued to Victorian Forces after purchase in 186, though I do believe that some Ordnance type were used earlier than that. In any case, the chape and lockets of the bayonet scabbards visible have the distinctive look of the Lancaster bayonet scabbard. There is another quite nice photo of soldiers in the same uniform in the "Early Muzzle Loaders in the Victorian Volunteer Forces" article in the Articles section at this site: http://mhhv.org.au/?P=745 (I still have trouble attaching web addresses in the flash way some of you other blokes do.) Lancer 17, what are the markings on your Lancaster bayonet that identify it as a Victorian issue bayonet? Is it numbered to the gun? Donny B. |
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The early (Pre WW1) uniforms worn were a damn sight more impressive than what is worn today!
At least the Brits continue to have brilliant uniforms to this day - the Australian Army (and government) should take notice! Mick
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The top of the but plate on my rifle is marked G62 / 818 / V V. I have had the rifle from the 1970's. The bayonet is marked on the pommel just below the slot with 1662 and AC in small letters. I hope that this helps. I also have a Martini Henry marked VMR. Putting photos up defeats me but I am sending some to Slick Mick ( he's a good man) and maybe he would put some up for us. Please Mick ! Regards Phil. Last edited by Lancer 17; 13-07-12 at 01:23 PM. |
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