Queens Surrey's

[Gurkha]

Anyone any ideas, looks like normal queens RWS badge but scroll reads "Church Corps". I've had it about 40 years when I collected to the 2nd foot.
Hugh King had never seen one and was keen to buy it form me.
Steve

[ard-ri]

Could it be like a Church Lads Brigade?

Michael

[Gurkha]

That was my inital thought but the CLB although organised on a county basis, used its own badge and were quite strict about that. It is possible that it was something similar but smaller tho'

Steve

[Luke H]

Could it be something to do with the Cranleigh CCF as they wore the pascal lamb badge of the West Surrey's?

Cheers,

Luke

[Stanley_C_Jenkins]

The Pascal Lamb is a religious symbol, and it is therefore conceivable that the badge has no military connections.

[Jelly Terror]

Wanted to resurrect this old thread in the hope that some info may have emerged in the intervening years. Anyone able to throw light on this badge/unit?

Lockdales auctioned a cap badge and collar, back in 2017 (image below), and I have also seen the cap badge in white-metal, though I suspect that to have been a plated bi-metal badge, as it had an overlaid scroll.

https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/a...9-a72300c7309c

Church Corps - Lockdales.jpg

All examples of the cap badge I have seen have been from the same die* (an as yet unidentified manufacturer) and all mounted on loops.

Regards,

JT

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JT QRWS 2C.jpg

[Alan O]

I suspect it is an unrecorded cadet corps badge preWW1.

[Jelly Terror]

Originally Posted by Alan O

I suspect it is an unrecorded cadet corps badge preWW1.

Thanks, Alan. I wonder how many other such units there may have been?

If anyone has an example of this badge they would like to move on, please let me know.

Regards,

JT

[Alan O]

Whilst researching cadet cap badges I think I have identified most OTC, JTC and CCF metal cap badges and there are a few not shown in the usual refernce works of K&K Vol 2, Rawlins (careful with some of his attributions as some are wrong) and E.J. Martin's OTC article of 1938.

However there is no such publication for cadet corps: K&K Vol 2 shown some cadet corps badges but does not accurately name them.

Army Lists provide a list of all cadet corps but there is no indication as to whether they wore the badge of their affiliated regiment or their own. In addition some Cadet Corps initially had their own badge which they wore for months or a few years. 1930-31 cadet badges are not recorded in any work and I am sure there are some examples out there that are not recorded.

In my cadet album https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/fo...p?albumid=2334 are a few badges of which I have only ever seen one or 2 other examples in 20 years.

There remain a lot of cadet corps badges that are unidentified or mis-identified. There is a Somerset school badge I really want to find that was wrongly attributed by Bosleys to a welsh cadet corps in an auction a few years ago.

[cbuehler]

This is a Cranleigh School badge in bronze that I have had for sometime now. Sorry for the terrible pics...

CB

[Jelly Terror]

Originally Posted by cbuehler

This is a Cranleigh School badge in bronze that I have had for sometime now. Sorry for the terrible pics...

CB

The so-called 'Al Jolson' fake, I'm sorry to say. I think it may even be yet another Marsh monster, but I haven't checked this for myself as yet.

https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/fo...40&postcount=6

https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/fo...69&postcount=8

https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/fo...d.php?p=585944

There is another 'Al Jolson' that does the rounds (see image below), sometimes seen with three loops - different die to yours, CB:

JT Al J Fake.jpg JT Al J Fake 2.jpg


JT