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Old 02-08-09, 09:33 PM
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Question A ship's badge with an open crown

Hi All,

I wonder if ye can help ... One of the people who help me with my site has sent me this image of a ship's badge with an open peaked crown with smaller star inserts.

He says: The badge above was found at Haulbowline when HMS Colleen (ex Royalist) was docked at Haulbowline Island naval base. The only other Cork shore establishments were Admiralty House, a few piers and a sports ground. Colleen was simply a hulk and I'm afraid I've never come across a ships badge or unofficial emblem.

In Monkstown (around the corner from Haulbowline) There were two ships moored for long durations. HMS Emerald (ex HMS Black Prince 1862) and USS Dixie AD1.

When dredging was taking place in the 1970's for a new pier a number of items were brought up, mainly brass ingots from USS Dixie. The enclosed ships badge also came up.


Can anyone recognise this one, please?

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Sorry, I haven't got a clue, but what size is the item? Button size or larger?
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Old 03-08-09, 08:04 AM
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To me it looks countersunk, possibly indicating it was screwed to a wall or mast etc. ....... perhaps an admiralty adornment of some kind, the naval equivalent of a Kite mark perhaps?

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Sorry, I haven't got a clue, but what size is the item? Button size or larger?
Thanks. cheers,
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Hi there Alex,

This is the size of one of those plaques you get with a ship's badge on it .... I've looked through Tom Stopford's Admiralty Ships Badges Original Patterns and I didn't find anything really like it. Certainly no crown with stars in between the peak of it.

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Old 03-08-09, 12:56 PM
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To me it looks countersunk, possibly indicating it was screwed to a wall or mast etc. ....... perhaps an admiralty adornment of some kind, the naval equivalent of a Kite mark perhaps?

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Hi Tom,

OK .. I'm missing something here (besides my brain!) ... what's a 'kite mark' ?

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Hi Tom,

OK .. I'm missing something here (besides my brain!) ... what's a 'kite mark' ?

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I am assuming that you have never lived in the uk...
quote "The Kitemark is the UK's oldest and most trusted product/service certification mark..." unquote.
If you google "The Kitemark" - all will be revealed with regard to its shape etc.
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D'oh!

THAT Kitemark! I thought it was some 'other' kite mark to do with the Navy!! *goes and puts a big cornet hat on and paints a BIG D on it!

I'm 1/2 Irish and 1/2 English. For the most part I grew up in Hong Kong until I was 18, then between England and the Republic of Ireland.

Sorry - Monday morning feeling a bit 'dim' ...... oh the shame, the shame!

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D'oh!

THAT Kitemark! I thought it was some 'other' kite mark to do with the Navy!! *goes and puts a big cornet hat on and paints a BIG D on it!

I'm 1/2 Irish and 1/2 English. For the most part I grew up in Hong Kong until I was 18, then between England and the Republic of Ireland.

Sorry - Monday morning feeling a bit 'dim' ...... oh the shame, the shame!

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Lol, no worries,

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