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Old 09-02-15, 01:14 AM
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Good Evening Everyone......

Can anyone please with either a K and K reference or photo of the badge advise me as to what badge would have been worn by the Irish Guards when they went to South Africa.....

I know the Irish Guards were formed in 1901 and the Boer War ended in 1902 but they did send some Mounted Infantry troops, not many, but they said the when the Boers heard that they were coming they knew the war was lost......

As a number of you know I am not really a cap badge collector but when I mount a medal I like to attach a cap badge for the unit named on the medal and in this case I have a photo and now only need the badge.....

Just as an side I only need one more QSA and I will have at least one to every British Regular Infantry Unit.....

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Old 09-02-15, 03:39 AM
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Mike

The rank and file wore cap star pattern 5032. K&K give it a reference no of 914.

The same basic design has been in use since sealing on 7 Dec 1900.

Below is a photo of the Irish Guards Contingent of 1st Company Guards Mounted Infantry. The company reached Cape Town on Dec 17 1901.

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Old 09-02-15, 03:50 AM
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Good Evening John.....

Thank You......

I thought it may be that one but needed confirmation......

Mike
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Old 09-02-15, 12:57 PM
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John
Were the early badges flatter and slightly smaller (4mm across the points) than later badges?
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Old 09-02-15, 02:06 PM
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Bill

I have heard this before but I know no way of substantiating differences between rank and file stars pre the anodized era (and ignoring the version with slider)

Certainly the very first officer and W/O stars can be differentiated by the elongated diagonal points of the star such as this W/O version in my album.

http://britishbadgeforum.com/forums/...ictureid=91144

Would be very happy to hear inputs from others on this matter.

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Old 09-02-15, 02:19 PM
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Good Morning Everyone......

Here is the reason that I am looking.......

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Old 09-02-15, 02:53 PM
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Mike,
The same rule applies here as with the other Victorian made Guards cap stars, the quality and detail, the rather pointed tips of the rays as opposed to them being more rounded, the brass used, the lugs and so on, if it does not look to be one hundred and fifteen years old, then the chances are it won't be, they certainly used to turn up in South Africa along with both the other two regiments stars of Anglo Boer War vintage, all three are similar in the way they were made and noticeably high quality when compared to later made examples.
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Old 09-02-15, 03:17 PM
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Incidentally Mike,
You might like to look at the Coldstream Guards thread of the 9th of October last year by grenadierguardsman, he wanted to look at the differences between the first cap stars and all the others,
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I'd love to get hold of a pair of those shamrock coller dogs
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