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Old 08-02-10, 07:19 AM
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Hi. Can anyone tell me if the Regular Battalions of the KOSB ever wore the "staybrite" version of their badge ? and if so, was it worn on the glengarry ? and during what period would this have been ? Sorry to pose so many questions in one thread, but I would very much like to know. Regards. Jeff
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Old 08-02-10, 08:15 AM
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Jeff,

They did indeed wear the a/a badge after 1968 when the Brigade system broke up until the formation of the Royal Regiment of Scotland. They wore it in all head dress.

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Old 09-02-10, 08:16 AM
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Thanks Alan, thats very interesting. So I guess there was no KC aa ?? Regards Jeff
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Old 09-02-10, 08:35 AM
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Hagwalther will know for sure but I don't think so.
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Jeff

the following may be of interest from The Bulletin of The Military Historical Society vol XIX no 76 of May 1969. It allows one to get some idea on the dates of wear of (what I assume are) A/A versions of regimental badges.

From the Honorary Secretary's notes.

Regimental Badges. For those who may have missed the announcement, it was reported in the Press in early March that eight infantry regiments are to resume the use of their regimental cap-badges, in place of the Brigade badges prescribed in 1958. The eight are: Royal Scots, Green Howards, Cheshires, Royal Welsh Fusiliers, King's Own Scottish Borderers, Duke of Wellingtons Regt., Black Watch and Gordon Highlanders...

Although it does not mention the type of badge I assume that from 1969 it was the A/A version of the badge that was issued.

Others may know if the AA version was worn prior to the introduction & adoption of the Brigade badge.

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Here are some notes I've made on this badge previously:

KOSB D&E

WO32/20561.

13.02.66. Director of Army Contracts wrote to Q(C&S)2a. A number of badge manufacturing tenders had been put out but no manufacturer had taken them up.
Mention of Glasgow Highlanders badge being difficult on account of the need for two-colour anodising and detail required. Due to the small number of the badges required manufacturers were reluctant to make dies, tools etc.

11.03.66. AQMG wrote to COD Branston & others regarding outstanding AA badges:
CB No--- Pattern-- Unit-------------- Demands-- Stocks-- Date last ordered
3506 14755 UOTC Birmingham 72 pairs 199 pairs 1953
3528 17481 Staffs Yeo 212 pairs 120 pairs 1954
3547 17554 North Irish Horse 142 pairs 113 pairs 1956
3750 17226 North'ld Hussars 100 pairs 50 pairs 1953
3206 16518 HAC(Arty) AA Large 137 singles Nil Unknown
7955 17345 Badges, Tam-O-Shanter Glasgow Highlanders
362 singles 750 (War Reserve) 1942
3327 16968 KOSB 312 singles 5390 (Inc 1500 War Reserve) 1955

With the exception of HAC & Glasgow Highlanders small stocks of GM insignia were held, and if issue were to be agreed, would suffice until the TA reorganisation.
Dies existed for the outstanding HAC & KOSB badges.

11.05.66. QMGF2 made the following observations,
UOTC Birmingham- to use up metal stock before purchasing AA.
Staffs Yeo- Requested 100 pairs seemed excessive as only the Regimental Band was entitled to collar badges at public expense.
North Irish Horse- Requested 142 pairs seemed excessive as only the Regimental Band was entitled to collar badges at public expense.
Northumberland Hussars- Stock of GM/WM badges to be used up and position reviewed in 12 months.
HAC- Authority granted, reluctantly, to purchase 137 badges @ 12/6d each.
Glasgow Highlanders- The unit should use up existing stocks, including the War Reserve.
KOSB- The unit should use up existing stocks, including the War Reserve. The current stock equalled 35 years supply.

There is also a forum photo of Sealed Pattern AA badges Organisation Tam-O’Shanter KOSB.
Sealed 26.03.71. Old Patern No 210194 deleted. (Superseded 26.04.94.?)
NSN 8455-99-973-9926.
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Old 09-02-10, 09:37 PM
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Thanks Alan, thats very interesting. So I guess there was no KC aa ?? Regards Jeff
Im sure that Hagwalther had an image of the KOSB a/a badges with reference to the smaller badge that was worn in the sporran.

Also ,im sure that it says that there was a kc KOSB in Peter Taylors book.Ive never seen an example or heard of one.Peter would be probaly able to say where the information on that one came from.
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Im sure that Hagwalther had an image of the KOSB a/a badges with reference to the smaller badge that was worn in the sporran.

Also ,im sure that it says that there was a kc KOSB in Peter Taylors book.Ive never seen an example or heard of one.Peter would be probaly able to say where the information on that one came from.
here is the link to Hagwalther's KOSB Card from the IWM.

It shows a KC White Metal cap badge in 1970

http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/for...tish+borderers
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Old 10-02-10, 09:07 AM
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here is the link to Hagwalther's KOSB Card from the IWM.

It shows a KC White Metal cap badge in 1970

http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/for...tish+borderers
Thanks for the link GGA. A very interesting thread indeed, but oh dear this has opened a real "can of worms" for me ! Can I return a little later to discuss this after I have done some "homework" ? Regards. Jeff
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Old 10-02-10, 08:24 AM
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Im sure that Hagwalther had an image of the KOSB a/a badges with reference to the smaller badge that was worn in the sporran.

Also ,im sure that it says that there was a kc KOSB in Peter Taylors book.Ive never seen an example or heard of one.Peter would be probaly able to say where the information on that one came from.
I think his book might need some revision for the next edition.
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