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Old 29-11-18, 04:52 AM
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Default Cloth Beret Badges For Soldiers - 1980's

Hi Guys,

Does anyone have examples of the following cloth beret badges for soldiers (not officers) from the 1980's era:

9th/12th Royal Lancers (Prince of Wales’s)
Royal Corps of Signals
The Queen’s Regiment
The Duke of Edinburgh’s Royal Regiment (Berkshire and Wiltshire)
Royal Corps of Transport
Royal Pioneer Corps
Army Catering Corps

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Old 29-11-18, 06:08 AM
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I'm not sure they're all 1980's, hi-res scans available if required.
I have a RCT in a slightly "rubbed" condition sewn on a beret somewhere
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Old 29-11-18, 08:34 AM
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Default CLOTH BADGES

Chris, Is this what you are looking for?

R Sigs & RCT
I have no cloth badge for RPC or ACC. I have never seen any for these, I believe they only wore A/A badges.
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Old 29-11-18, 09:44 AM
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Thanks Leigh, Jerry.

The reason I ask is that there was a trial of cloth badges in the 1980's with such items to be used as a possible substitute for A/A cap badges. I have details of the request for the trial and the units, as supplied in post #1, to be covered. However, I have not been able to find a write up on the conclusions of the trial, if one actually existed, so was not 100% that the trial actually took place.

It seems though that at least some of the badges were manufactured. The Queen's Regt is a little different in that before the trial in late 1970's they unilaterally started using a cloth badge in place of the A/A item for soldiers. Chappies at the top not impressed and Queen's told to get back to A/A which may explain the two versions shown by Leigh.

I have no idea how to date cloth badges but good to see examples of five of the seven units so far shown which may point to the fact that the trial badges were actually made.

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Many units had cloth badges made for wear in N.I. so that the "shiny" ones did not make them a target.
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Old 29-11-18, 10:42 AM
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I may be wrong but I believe that the taller of the Queen's badgespreceded the shorter version.
Are you interested in the Guard's versions of embroidered badges? The GG were using embroidered on felt grenades by 1974/75, the design being slightly different in colouring to the NCOs sleeve grenades although the latter were used on the beret due to shortages.
The Chesires wore a round, embroidered felt badge, I think in the 80's, it was unpopular and later used as a tracksuit badge for those who passed a ski course (so I was told when I phoned their RHQ).
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I believe the Queen's Regiment, specifically 2 QUEEN'S adopted the cloth badge in 1972/3.
I have never seen a cloth beret badge for the DERR, RPC or ACC and would suspect that the trial did not take place. Indeed there were many more cloth beret badges already in use by the 1980s and opinions could have been sought from units by the ADC.

For other examples see my album https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/fo...hp?albumid=513

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I may be wrong but I believe that the taller of the Queen's badgespreceded the shorter version.
Are you interested in the Guard's versions of embroidered badges? The GG were using embroidered on felt grenades by 1974/75, the design being slightly different in colouring to the NCOs sleeve grenades although the latter were used on the beret due to shortages.
The Chesires wore a round, embroidered felt badge, I think in the 80's, it was unpopular and later used as a tracksuit badge for those who passed a ski course (so I was told when I phoned their RHQ).
My notes re. the Cheshire's machine embroidered (in white, yellow, black and green thread) on circular dark blue cloth beret badge:

On 24th November 1985 I phoned The Cheshires
RHQ to enquire about this badge and was told that it was issued when the 1st Bn went to Germany in 1974 and was worn for a very short time, being very unpopular and discontinued by the CO.

It was then issued for wear on the track suit by personnel who'd passed a ski test.

At the time I made the enquiry (Nov. 1985) it was worn as a beret badge by cadets.
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Hi Chris

Attached are the 9th/12th Royal Lancers (Prince of Wales’s) cloth beret badges I have, I also had one in UN blue for, I believe, wear on the UN blue helmet cover (see separate image - it is AWOL at present if I still have it).

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Hi Chris

Attached are the 9th/12th Royal Lancers (Prince of Wales’s) cloth beret badges I have, I also had one in UN blue for, I believe, wear on the UN blue helmet cover (see separate image - it is AWOL at present if I still have it).

Hope it helps

Graham
Hi Graham,

Lots of 9th/12th - if one was made for the trial I wonder which one it was?

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The bottom two where worn during Gulf War 1, and not just by the Lancers.

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Chris just found a note in my files regarding the D E R R cloth badge . Worn by all ranks 1983-85 a cloth version of the standard badge trialled by one of the company's but quickly phased out I have just acquired an example of this badge removed from a beret -a scarce item
Still looking for a band cross belt plate /pouch bade in a/a
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The cloth Queen's was worn by Wilson's School CCF during the 80s. The website/alumni pages show it quite clearly. I was badged RAF so had a proper badge, or so I thought until I joined the Royal Signals and wore a badge in earnest
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Chris just found a note in my files regarding the D E R R cloth badge . Worn by all ranks 1983-85 a cloth version of the standard badge trialled by one of the company's but quickly phased out I have just acquired an example of this badge removed from a beret -a scarce item
Still looking for a band cross belt plate /pouch bade in a/a
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Thanks David,

Maybe the trial did go ahead for some of the badges but I've not yet found any official results. If anyone does please contact me.

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Chris just found a note in my files regarding the D E R R cloth badge . Worn by all ranks 1983-85 a cloth version of the standard badge trialled by one of the company's but quickly phased out I have just acquired an example of this badge removed from a beret -a scarce item
Still looking for a band cross belt plate /pouch bade in a/a
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Part of a cloth grouping on eBay a few days ago?
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