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Old 23-01-14, 10:18 PM
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I was wondering if these 2 elephants I have in my collection are infact original or reproductions , the one on the left has 3 lugs and better detail than the one on the right with 2 lugs, both appear to be from the same die,
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Old 23-01-14, 10:37 PM
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The two lugged example is a good example of a proper badge whereas I have my doubts about the three lugged example, which has no space between the tail and the elephant.
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Old 23-01-14, 10:51 PM
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Thankyou , i was thinking the other way around im not sure if these are rare or have any value but the pictures dont quite show but apart from the tail they are from the same die , its amazing how a camera can make things look a different shape ,
What age are they from?
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Old 24-01-14, 12:11 PM
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They were worn between 1898 and 1902 so would be Boer War period.
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Old 24-01-14, 05:30 PM
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The two lugged example is a good example of a proper badge whereas I have my doubts about the three lugged example, which has no space between the tail and the elephant.
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I agree with your comments. The RH badge IMO is the better example.

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Old 24-01-14, 09:48 PM
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Good evening.

I agree with what has been posted thus far, the 2 lugged badge appears the better item, however, I very much doubt if both badges came from the same die.

Several points lean towards this: The angle of the head; size of the chest; wrinkles on the flank; thickness of the trunk; angle and shape of the scroll;voiding between the tail, (which I believe is a bit of a clue to a good one)

But not having a great deal of knowledge in respect of the Nelly badges, I don't know whether the 2 lugs is a good 'un or not.

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Old 25-01-14, 09:36 AM
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A bit of fun for a Saturday. Here is a Nelly troop. Which one(s) are real Nellies? I do know the answer. Besides being a Yeomanry collector I take an interest in some Cavalry regiments, this being one of them. I'll give you the answer once people have had a chance to input their guesses.
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Old 25-01-14, 09:47 AM
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The middle one of the three is my choice
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Old 25-01-14, 10:09 AM
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I'm with Malc, the one in the middle for me too!

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Old 25-01-14, 05:13 PM
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Only two have answered and both are correct. The middle badge is the correct answer. The detail that fakers have tried to correct is the gap between the tail and the hindquarters. I have found that the fittings are the best indicator when unsure about the rest of the detail as this is harder to fake (but not impossible). The 3 loop badge looks like the one of the badges made in the seventies for the collectors market. The one on the right is easily obtainable from 'known' dealers on ebay.
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Old 04-10-14, 08:03 AM
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Smile 19th Hussars Double Scroll badge photograph

Another old collection badge photograph to share (more in my album of these).

Double scroll 19th Hussars K&K 790.

The lines on the trunk can be seen to be absent from the proximal end of the trunk and there is the visible gap between the tail and the rear flank of the elephant extending quite a way up the tail. States on the back of the photograph WM or silver 1898.

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Old 04-10-14, 09:24 AM
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Thanks Dean...... that is a great image. A proper ORs double scroll is a very rare Nelly!

I cleaned it up a bit....
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Old 04-10-14, 09:41 AM
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Dean..... here it is against the hallmarked silver officers.
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Old 04-10-14, 10:05 AM
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Very fine Nelly indeed - thanks for sharing. These must be exceedingly rare I would have thought.

I wish there were more cavalry pics in this bundle but mostly RV's.

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Old 04-10-14, 02:26 PM
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Dean,

You won't see many Genuine doubled scrolled nellies ,I've only ever seen 2 the hall marked example which belongs to a forum member an an WM example .

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