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20-12-13, 12:35 PM
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12th Manitoba Dgns variation
Hi
Somewhat recent acquisition in my capbadge collection.  Does anyone have info to share as to why it's solid? No MM that I can see. regards Darrell
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20-12-13, 03:56 PM
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The badge was being made on a Friday afternoon before a long weekend?
Phil
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20-12-13, 07:48 PM
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Hi Phillip
Govmt contract?!  Hi Bill It looks stamped but I could be wrong. There is show-thru of the obverse lettering on the back. As for the lugs; they stand no taller than other period badges but the loops are smaller. Do you know what pouch the 12th MD wore? regards Darrell
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20-12-13, 08:08 PM
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Hi Darrell, For me the lugs looked to be longer than normal, which led to the suggestion that it may have been for the pouch worn with full dress. (They had a full dress uniform with accoutrements for dragoon regiments. There would be a lot of similarity with the RCD's full dress.)
Note the badge is the corrected error type. The "I" in Manitoba was originally an "A".
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Res ipsa loquitur Last edited by Bill A; 12-01-14 at 02:57 PM.
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22-12-13, 03:31 AM
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Darrell,
The pouch badge is described in the same G.O. which authourizes that pattern of cap badge (G.O. 180 / 1939) Though the cap badge changed in 1939, the pouch badge had been identically described in previous G.O.'s. I have never seen a pouch badge or a waist plate as described in these documents. I am not certain, but am skeptical that they were ever made. For what it's worth, the pouch badge is (or should have been): Pouch Ornament Buffalo and mount in silver, remainder of badge in gilt.Within an annulus inscribed "MANITOBA XII DRAGOONS" ensigned with the Crown, on a stippled background, a buffalo charging, upon a mount. On the base of the annulus a trefoil. H. 2 5/8 in. W. 2 inches.
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22-12-13, 12:58 PM
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Hi Bill
They may look longer but they stand 9mm from the back which close in length as the other period badges I have (4H=10mm, 2Dgns=9mm, KCH=9mm, Man Hrse=8mm, etc). Thanks for the description but if it is a cartouche badge then it hasn't any longer lugs. I must correct my earlier post tho', in that the loops are no smaller or larger than most of the capbadges I have. Hi Doug Thank you for that. Mine certainly doesn't conform to that G.O. description. Curious.  regards Darrell
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