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Small Arms & Musketry
Hi,
Two badges for opinions please. Thanks Kevin |
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Top badge is a fantasy item also found in white metal and both often with red material behind the crown
regards
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Simon Butterworth Manchester Regiment Collector Rank, Prize & Trade Badges British & Commonwealth Artillery Badges |
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Kevin,
I'm not a fan of the bottom badge, Crown isn't right in my opinion. Tony.
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For Christopher night night son. |
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Bottom badge is a fake from the same die as the one featured in the Martin Marsh catalogues.
Top badge also appears in said catalogue. |
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Simon, Tony and Luke,
It`s unanimous, into the crap bin with both of them. Thankyou all. Kevin |
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Kevin,
I hope this crap bin is quite large because the majority of the badges you have shown today are destined for it. No offence. regards
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Simon Butterworth Manchester Regiment Collector Rank, Prize & Trade Badges British & Commonwealth Artillery Badges |
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Simon,
Yes it`s quite a large box and sadly there`s probably a lot more to go in it, years of naïve buying on fleabay to blame...……... Kevin |
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Was there ever a genuine S of M badge with the thicker profile Lee Enfields? Mine has the earlier "thin" rifles.
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Keith |
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regards
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Simon Butterworth Manchester Regiment Collector Rank, Prize & Trade Badges British & Commonwealth Artillery Badges |
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I disagree in this case Simon. There is photographic evidence that they were worn as rank badges on the arm of service dress during WW1 by warrant officers, CSMI and QMSI (the latter changing to a badge within a laurel wreath during the course of the war). This is why there are so many of them. However, to be genuine they must be looped and not with sliders. Unfortunately there have been reproductions with sliders. I transferred into and served with the SASC between 1984 and 1990 and as with all the corps whose cap badges that I wore I took a great interest in their history and dress, and for a while had the opportunity to root around in the photo archives that were held in the small arms museum at Battlesbury barracks. Rather like multi part shoulder title sets they were originally separate and issued with a back plate and cotter pins, but it was soon found convenient to brase them together into one device.
Last edited by Toby Purcell; 31-05-20 at 06:07 PM. |
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Toby,
I believe you are wrong in this instance. They are a fake made up badge that first appeared in the 70's and come in GM & WM exactly the same. If you are correct why are there equal numbers of WM ones? I would like to see the photographic evidence you have of this style of badge in use. regards
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Simon Butterworth Manchester Regiment Collector Rank, Prize & Trade Badges British & Commonwealth Artillery Badges |
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Last edited by Toby Purcell; 31-05-20 at 06:04 PM. |
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Toby,
I didnt say I didnt believe you I just asked to see photographic evidence of them in use which you stated exists. Personally I have never seen such photographs. If you concede the WM versions are spurious then it follows the GM versions are too because they are identical and appeared on the market at the same time. They have been made for 50 years in both metals, are available in numbers far higher than the total number of Instructors that ever existed and can be found with loops and with sliders. They are prolific. One can be found in virtually every provincial 'militaria' auction' in the same quantity as cloth SAS cap badges as well as ebay and the less knowledgable militaria dealers website. regards
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Simon Butterworth Manchester Regiment Collector Rank, Prize & Trade Badges British & Commonwealth Artillery Badges |
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Last edited by Toby Purcell; 31-05-20 at 06:16 PM. |
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