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Old 22-04-19, 03:57 AM
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Default The Buffs, Norfolk, Wiltshire How are these?

The Buffs badge has some weight to it - 20g. Is it a bad sign when a badge has little detail on the reverse?
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Old 22-04-19, 08:17 AM
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The Wiltshire is fake small oval between the scroll and cross -should be point contact between the cross and the end of the scroll -Collecting to the Wiltshire for 43 years

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Old 22-04-19, 10:33 AM
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Buffs looks bad as does the Norfolks check the Trident and the Hand holding Flowers a lot of flash surplus metal
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Old 22-04-19, 11:10 AM
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The Wiltshire is fake small oval between the scroll and cross -should be point contact between the cross and the end of the scroll This type of oval is found on one genuine badge -Collecting to the Wiltshire for 43 years
Can you tell me which one, please ?
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Old 22-04-19, 04:14 PM
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Just recheck a 2nd vol badge officer silver plate which thought had the small oval -it does not
I do have a sand cast example which has a smallish oval
Just for interest the fake/commissioned anodised A E A cypher has this small oval also

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Old 22-04-19, 05:39 PM
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I've got this lugged one, which has a small void, not really oval though.
Is this void okay ?
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Old 22-04-19, 06:35 PM
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My lugged [vic/edwardian] example has the normal 'void 'between cross and scroll obtained from an old S.A collection via geoff Newman with the same lugged pair of collars If you look at any old post cards/cig cards or even book covers of the regimental history always have the point contact no small oval
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Old 22-04-19, 07:27 PM
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I think the lugged Wilts badge is fine, most of the lugged wilts badges I have seen have the almost rectangular void. Regards, Paul.
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Old 22-04-19, 08:15 PM
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Would want to see a photo or some form of evidence before placing in my collection The lugged examples shown in the regimental collection [the Wardrobe ] have the point contact not the small oval
Paul how many have you seen ???? perhaps in my 45 years I have missed all of these

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Old 22-04-19, 09:06 PM
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This is the best I can find. Not very clear, but the void is a small type I would say.
What d'you think ?
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Old 22-04-19, 09:14 PM
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Parabellum many thanks for posting but Don't think my eyesight is good enough to say either way If you are happy with the photo then thats all that counts
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Old 22-04-19, 09:16 PM
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No worries, thanks David
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Old 22-04-19, 10:15 PM
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Thanks to everyone for sharing their knowledge. I did a google image search and now I understand point of contact for the Wiltshire badge (and see many that have the little void for sale). I can also see the flash by the wrist and trident that makes my badge not even a good fake. Considering the source of the Buffs badge I'm under no illusion that it is genuine.

Can anyone point out what is wrong with the Buffs badge so us beginners can put some more red flags into our arsenal (or maybe there is another thread that has covered this topic)?
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Old 22-04-19, 10:37 PM
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Doing more google image searches and came across this listing for a badge that is very close to the one I have.

The seller does state "I believe"
http://https://www.ebay.com/itm/1534...?ul_noapp=true
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Old 22-04-19, 11:26 PM
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Only an opinion David. Not collecting specifically to the regiment I'm sure you have seen more than myself but I still think it a makers variation- the void being more of a rectangle than the usual small void which I would say, like you, is a fake. I have also seen the small rectangular void type with a slider.
I wonder what you think of a version with a medium size void with a small fault at 8 o'clock on the left arm of cross (as viewed)? This variation has a slightly tapered slider with crimp.
Has your research into Wiltshire badges given you an idea of number of manufacturers and numbers produced? Regards, Paul
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