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WW2 RAF HALF WINGS. THOUGHTS WELCOME.
Hello,
Here are images of three RAF half wings which I am confident are authentic but I will certainly listen to all opinions... Thank you, Dominique |
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They look authentic to me, probably WW2. The FE is one I haven't seen before other than in books. FE was a variation on Flight Engineer, which I think came in with the advent of the four-engined bombers, but I could be wrong. The curve is also interesting and could be Canadian. I just checked and Warren Carroll's book 'Wings. Canada and Great Britain 1913 - 1945' (p.107) shows an RAF one with a straight wing, dated 1941. I haven't found a Canadian version, but some Canadian half wings tended to be curved. Maybe it was Canadian made.
David Last edited by David Tremain; 26-02-15 at 03:19 PM. Reason: typos |
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Thanks.
Thank you so much David , your thoughts are always appreciated.
BR, Dominique |
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Hi David:
I don't think the "F.E." is Canadian. We did have a controversial "AE" version. Our large curve pattern had 15 feathers and the small curve design even more. It looks like yours has 11 but the bottom is chopped off in my pictures. I would guess a theatre made or a one-off tailor version but I don't know much about British variants. All the best, Z. |
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Hi Zorgon,
Just to remind you the half wing is not mine but Dominique's. As I said, I haven't found any illustrations of a Canadian one. Maybe if I had a copy of 'Eagles Recalled' it might show one in there. David |
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Dominique,
I agree with everything David has said, they are all okay and I would suggest the FE is indeed, Canadian, but, all are good examples. Regards Frank Quote:
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The E & S are post war, around 1960s-70s.
The FE would be from WW2, but appears to be handmade possibly by the wearier himself, This was not unusual for the period. |
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My posting has now been corrected as there were so many typos in it which I hadn't noticed until I saw Frank quoting me. How embarrassing! It's my computer that's retarded, not me! It skips around all over the place and puts things where I don't want them, inserts parts of words here and there. Time this one went the way of the dumpster. Next time I'll make sure to preview everything first.
David |
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The E & S are post war, around 1960s-70s.
The FE would be from WW2, but appears to be handmade possibly by the wearier himself, This was not unusual for the period I see. Could this AG half wing be also handmade ? |
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It looks much cruder than others I've seen, so yes, it's possible. Maybe it was locally made somewhere.
By the way, today I saw a picture in Russell Huff's book 'Wings of the World' of an RAF FE half wing, so yours is likely RAF. David |
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The top two wings are genuine. I'm not sure I'd agree with as late as 1970s but certainly very late war at the earliest. Construction is the same for wartime into the late 60s.
The FE is interesting. When the new trade was announced in the press in 1942 it was variously noted as flight engineer or aero engineer. As we know when the official badge was produced it was simply an 'E'. However, tailors produced their own and both AE and FE were produced in standard pattern. I've not seen an AE in use (Although it was used post war as 'Air Electronics'), but I do have an FE wing and photos of it being worn. Neither the FE or wartime AE was authorised by the Air Ministry. So you have a rare FE wing that is theatre made, possibly North African as some bombers flew from there. I doubt if it was worn in Europe. As for the AG wing, I believe that's New Zealand pattern/manufacture. If you want to part with the FE let me know! :-) Last edited by SAS1; 27-02-15 at 05:36 PM. |
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I agree with SAS1.
The AG brevet is definitely New Zealand Air Force from the early 1950s. |
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"The AG brevet is definitely New Zealand Air Force from the early 1950s"
Or late 1940's... Thank you for your kind assistance Gentlemen. BR, Dominique |
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Also interested in that FE wing if it ever comes up for sale. Regards, Jeff
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