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Old 23-02-08, 06:59 PM
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Default A/A Variant Badges Of The Q.D.G

Howard,
Terrific pics of the arm badges,just to continue the theme of Q.D.G badges I thought I'd post a few variant A/A badges for the staybrite collectors out there.
P. Taylors book "collecting anodised badges" states that there are 3 versions of the Q.D.G badge.I believe the 3 badges posted below could be the ones he's writing about.

1. unvoided between the eagles head. (firmin)
2. voided between the eagles head. (firmin)
3. differing wing pattern with sword further on the left of the badge
also no pattern on centre of shield (J.RGaunt B'ham)
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Old 24-02-08, 04:38 PM
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Hi guys, i need educating here as i know absolutely nothing about 'staybright' badges..... What is the difference between chromed and anodised and silvered etc etc, they are all staybright to this uneducated fool.... and what exactly constitutes a 'staybright' nomenclature....
Anyway these are the 'staybrights' i have ...please correct me if needed...

1. KDG Dowler - Quite a matt appearance, deep chromed and of a high quality. Quite a chunky looking bird with wide central crown. This was the first 'staybright' badge issued to KDG but they never wore it as they only wore the WM badge bought at the PRI and then polished.

2. QDG Gaunt - Bright almost silver in appearance. Quite slim in comparison to the Dowler bird. Solid cast rear of badge, and gap beneath crown is un-voided.

3. QDG Firmin - Looks to be from the same cast as the Dowler bird as appearance is quite broad and has same crown. Not so shiny as Gaunt bird. Short and broad slider.

4. QDG London badge & Button Co - Similar in shape to the Gaunt model but not exactly. Sword to the end of the wing with central portion of shield unmarked (no dots). Small orb and the rear of the badge is cast solid.

5. QDG London badge & Button Co - Same again, similar in shape to the Gaunt model but not exactly. Sword to the end of the wing with central portion of shield unmarked (no dots). Small orb and the rear of the badge is pressed.

Howard
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Old 24-02-08, 04:42 PM
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Here are numbers 3 and 4
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Old 24-02-08, 04:46 PM
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And last but not least.... number 5
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Old 24-02-08, 07:19 PM
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Nice collection. In the purist sense staybrite is only anodised aluminium rather than chromed or silver plated. I have a chromed Firmin version as well.

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Old 10-03-08, 11:53 AM
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Hi Howard, I have a 1943 KDG hallmarked collar badge with pin fixing, could this be the badge for Sgts of special merit?
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Old 10-03-08, 05:20 PM
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Hi Howard, I have a 1943 KDG hallmarked collar badge with pin fixing, could this be the badge for Sgts of special merit?
Hi there Fearnaught.

Well it is definitely a possibility. It was the HM Silver 1938 patt collar that they used for this award, of course not exclusively for the Merit Badge but also for collars.... But that is the type of collar used... yes...

Hope that is of some use... will PM you too

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Hi Guys,

What do the current KDG collar badges look like? I have never seen any and am chasing a pair for my collection.

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There you go boyos.... the real McCoy.....
It was a HM silver 1938 patt collar.; but they were not specifically produced to be presented as a Merit Badge. They were made as Officers Collar Badges and used in a secondary fashion in 1943 by the then CO who had the bright idea of presenting outstanding SNCO Tp Ldr's with the Merit Badge. Therfore, unless you have some additional provenance such as the certificate and or a letter of authentication, it can only be assumed as a collar badge and therefore representative of the Merit badge.... No appologies for being pedantic because if we dont lay the law down now..... every man and his dog will be the proud owners of the Merit badge when the actual number presented was in single figures......
I wish i could tell you that this little beauty was mine but sadly its not.... Pics taken in Regt'l museum archive room.......
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Old 10-03-08, 11:00 PM
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What do the current KDG collar badges look like? I have never seen any and am chasing a pair for my collection.

Mick
Mick

KDG ceased to be on January 1st 1959 when they amalgamated with the Queen's Bays to form QDG. Therfore.... there are no current KDG collar badges...

Howard
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Hi Howard,

I mean the QDG in that case :-)

I have only ever seen the silvered eagle hat badge.

Mick
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Hi, with reference to the 37 GM badge from your reply I get the impression it wasn't worn. Is that right. Also I have both versions and they are different dies, do you know why and really pushing my luck, why lugs and slider?
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Hi, with reference to the 37 GM badge from your reply I get the impression it wasn't worn. Is that right. Also I have both versions and they are different dies, do you know why and really pushing my luck, why lugs and slider?
Sorry mate..... was that Q directed at me? Do you mean the 38 pattern GM badge?
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Hi, sorry yes. I,m new and thought everybody could mind-read,and yes I stand corrected 1938 GM. Thanks for all the information. It's really good to hear from someone who knows what theyr'e talking about. I've enjoyed reading this thread.
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Old 11-03-08, 10:32 PM
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I mean the QDG in that case :-)

I have only ever seen the silvered eagle hat badge.

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There you go Mick, thats what they wear today...
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