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[paj1]

Hi Guys
This seems to be a good quality die stamped cap badge
it has four blades two each side
i know its not the normal bronze finish but is it an officers badge
or something else?
opinions most welcome
Julian

[manchesters]

Julian,

Its a lovely original badge.

Appears gilding metal, but with those blades is clearly an officers badge.

In my opinion its an OSD badge that has lost its finish.

Easy to replace the finish to make it once more a great badge.

regards

[paj1]

Simon
Thanks for the reply
Its as you say a lovely badge
i think i will give it a gentile clean and leave it as it is
Julian

[2747andy]

Julian,
Don't have it bronzed, it is supposed to be Gm/Gilt!

http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/for...ictureid=70621

Andy

[GriffMJ]

Drop it into some white vinegar for an hour or two. .. then use an old toothbrush with washing up liquid and see the difference :-)

[2747andy]

Griff,
That would turn it a strange colour, It is not dirty enough, just spend a few minutes with a tooth brush and warm soapy water and the results will be drastic enough!

[manchesters]

If it is gilt, and I dont mind being corrected, use a little washing up liquid mixed with ammonia, that MAY bring back any gilt finish that remains. Its an excellent method.

regards

[JerryBB]

A good pick up of an uncommonly seen version. I have the similar looking more common version with a slider.

[41st]

Julian,

I don't think that your example is an Officer's badge. The quality is just not there and as you state it is die stamped and not die cast.

Here are my silver and bronze Officers' examples. I'm convinced that they're from the same die with the slight variations down to the different metals used. The angle of the fore leg can easily be altered post production.

I've also shown the four variants of bronze collar badges I have which again are all die cast.

Interestingly Churchill states that all noted examples of the larger version shown at the top (with a "T" sans serifs) all face to the left, concluding that they must be cap badges.

This one faces to the right proving that it must be a collar badge.

As to your badge I think it could be an early ORs example. I have a cap badge to the 3rd VB RWF with the same arrangement of double blades so I know that ORs badges were made with these blades at or around 1908 when the VBs became TF battalions. If there is evidence of gilding it could of course be a senior NCOs example.

Hwyl,

Kevin

[paj1]

Thanks for the replys guys
Looking at the badge again i think its GM and not Bronze or Gilt finish
Kevin some superb badges you have there thanks for pictures
Julian

[41st]

Thought I’d resurrect this thread as I’ve been going through my SWB badges and realised I hadn’t posted these.
1. Frosted silver plate made from a die cast badge which had loops N & S converted to a shank. Presumably for wear in the foreign service helmet.
Three die struck examples L to R:- Very well defined example converted from shank to loops, die struck with original shank, less well defined die struck with loops.
2. Reverse of above.
3. Closer detail reverse of the frosted silver plate example showing the position of the original upper loop, the lower one is set below the rear rhs leg on the ground behind the shank, and the rear of the badge converted from shank to wire loops. What is noticeable about this badge is that you can see where the ridges of the belly plates continue below the line of the belly.