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20-11-20, 05:19 PM
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MARPLES & BEASLEY over BIRMINGHAM maker mark
There seems to be a general consensus on the Forum that the maker mark MARPLES & BEASLEY over BIRMINGHAM should not appear on the sliders of 'other ranks' badges made in white metal (WM), gilding metal (GM) or bi-metal (BIM). The mark is therefore an indicator that the badge is not genuine (i.e. a fake or reproduction), or that it is perhaps a genuine badge and the mark has been added to provide spurious verisimilitude.
The following list (not exhaustive) is an attempt to cover badges that have been seen for sale and/or have been identified on this Forum in recent years. MARPLES & BEASLEY \ BIRMINGHAM 15th Hussars 17th/21st Lancers WM 21st Lancers (VRI) KC GM 22nd Dragoons WM 26th Hussars GM 5th Inniskilling Dragoon Guards KC WM 9th Lancers KC WM Army Air Corps KC WM Artists Rifles WM Duke of Cornwall’s Light Infantry WM East Lancashire Regiment KC BIM Glider Pilot Regiment KC WM Hertfordshire Yeomanry GM Home Counties Brigade WM Intelligence Corps KC GM Lanarkshire Yeomanry GM Manchester Regiment GM (fleur de lys) Norfolk Regiment GM North Irish Horse QC WM Palestine Police KC WM Parachute Regiment KC WM Queen’s Own Yorkshire Yeomanry BIM Rifle Brigade KC WM Royal Dragoons BIM Royal Engineers KC GM Royal Fusiliers 1st Judean Battalion GM Royal Norfolk Regiment GM Royal Ulster Rifles KC WM South Staffordshire Regiment QC BIM Special Air Service BIM Staffordshire Yeomanry KC WM Staffordshire Yeomanry QC WM Welsh Regiment WM (2nd VB) Westmoreland & Cumberland Yeomanry GM I will post some photos as examples. Tim
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20-11-20, 05:32 PM
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More photos:
Tim
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"Manui dat cognitio vires - Knowledge gives strength to the arm" "Better to know it but not need it than to need it and not know it!" "Have more than thou showest, speak less than thou knowest."
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20-11-20, 09:44 PM
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Please comment and add details and images of any examples not listed so far.
Tim
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21-11-20, 08:23 AM
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21-11-20, 09:33 AM
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The purpose of this thread is to highlight that it seems from many posts on this Forum that the MARPLES & BEASLEY over BIRMINGHAM mark should not be found on metal 'other ranks' cap badges. The opinions posted are that the badge might be genuine but the mark could have been added or that both the badge and the mark are fake.
Keen to hear other members views. The mark when/if found on officers' badges or on the sliders of anodised badges is a different matter! This picture shows the availability of replacement sliders. Tim
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