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I thought that I should add this badge here to try and complete the SA Scottish badges. This is the pipers sporran badge. If you find an example like this in silver, be very careful, it is likely a fake. Somebody had some made up in the UK some many years back. Regards Andrew
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Very nice Andrew, I'm sure there cant be too many of these around?
regards, Iain
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Hi Iain, rumour has it, less than 10. Officially there is only 1 in the Tvl. Scottish Museum. The rest were destroyed when the baggage train was hit by a shell in France. In the 1960's a few were discovered at the manufacturer in Edinburgh that had never been issued. All told there appears to be about 6 or 7 in circulation. They have been faked in silver. The originals are in white metal. Regards Andrew
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Wow,
the Americans would say "that's very unique" but lets rather say, almost unique! I guess I'll never get to have one of those regards, Iain
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Well Iain, you never know. I only picked mine up about 2 or 3 years ago. I was very chuffed. Regards Andrew
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Hi all,
I have these two WWI SA Brigade titles which have the "INF" cut out of the middle and also finished nicely as though it was done with a purpose. They are done in different styles so not a pair. My own thought was that it may have been to put the regiment number in there but seeing Frank's number 4 which is 20 + mm and it would only allow 15mm max. Any ideas anyone? SA titles.jpg Thanks Iain
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I'm sure you were very chuffed Andrew, one of those little triumphs of badge collecting that makes everything worthwhile.
regards, Iain
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Hello Dudley,
I very much like the little divisional thistles, they are not very common and I should imagine owe their survival to the fact, that unlike, other Great War divisional badges, they are actually made of metal rather than all cloth. Delville has always been a very special place for me, many members of service battalions of my own local county regt lost their lifes there too, but, it was the 1st SA Infantry Brigade that stands out in my mind when you actually start looking at the numbers that the enemy put into the field against them. The South Africans were just superb, I very much admire the Transvaaler's of the 3rd Regt in particular, their courage was magnificent on the 19th of July and after, for sometime, they did, in effect, cease to exist as a proper unit, but, Iain likes the 4th Regt, so for now, I'll stick with them! With regard to medals, I am, first and foremost, a medal collector, so I do like medals, Delville casualties are a firm favourite, this was the last one I bought. Hubert Cunningham Hutton was born in Killmarnock Scotland in 1887, in 1915 he was a bank clerk in Johannesburg, he joined up on the 18th of August at the Drill Hall in Johannesburg and accepted provisional enrolment for service overseas in an Imperial Service Unit, he swore his oath to King George two days later in Potchefstoom. He was posted to the 4th South African Infantry Regt, he was sent to England and at the end of March 1916 was posted to France. He was wounded on the first day, the evening of the 14th of July 1916, in the right thigh, after a month in Eastborne Military Hospital, he was invalided back to the union and ended up at Wynberg General Hospital. He was discharged on the 8th of January 1917 and died on the 3rd of September following in Johannesburg. When I checked his file at SADF Petoria I was moved by a newspaper cutting attached to the opening page: A Springbok's Death Late 1026 Pte Hubert Cunningham Hutton. He went with the first contingent having joined the South African Scottish. He was seroiusly wounded in the Delville Wood Battle, 14th July 1916. The remains of the late Pte Hutton who died September 3rd in Johannesburg, as stated on Monday, were interred at the New Cemetery, Brixton, yesterday, with military honours. There was a good attendance of friends and sympathisers, a firing party and bugulars being provided by the cadets of St John's College. The Rev. J. D. Buchan conducted the service at the grave side. Wreaths were sent by the manager and staff of the African Banking Corporation. On yet another anniverary of this terrible battle, I salute a brave man, RIP sir! Quote:
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Hello Steven,
With the Grigg made badges, I would have thought, okay yes, an officers badge, die cast and bronze, but, the problem I have, is that the very same badge was also made in brass, a true OSD is normally on blades, but, or course, there were other manufacturers that made officers badges on lugs. I feel that with the amazing range of badges available for officers, silver, bronze and of course the superb fine murcurial fire gilt, why would you want a brass one, I would not! So my own thoughts are that the brass are for other ranks and the bronze were intended for officers, but, I just don't know for sure, both the SA Hospital and Brigade Depot were in Richmond. Kind regards Frank Quote:
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Iain,
If I saw those, I would have just bought them without any thought at all, it is hard to know why the "infantry" has been removed, perhaps for a South African, who was not/no longer serving with the infantry but still wanted to be seen as a South African, again, it is hard to know! Kind regards Frank Quote:
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Hi Frank,
that is a possibility, I also have a "bok in the porthole" badge with an artillery backing flash; maybe this was the logic behind it??? SA Arty 011.jpg kind regards, Iain Quote:
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You are up late tonight Iain! what sort of night temperature do you have down there?
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Was up late Frank, it was Saturday! During the week we get up at 5h00 but I'm often awake at 04h00 but we also crash early.
Yesterday we had a low of 6 and a max of 20 C; it is still officially winter here but I say that by the 2nd week of August the worst of the winter is over as the sun is getting strong again, warming the land and killing any cold fronts! Well you asked! regards, Iain
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LOL Iain,
So is that what you guys down there call these then, a bok in the porthole? Quote:
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