Ducal crowned, Order of the Garter, collar and belt badge

[Terra Nova]

Submitted for your consideration is a highly detailed cast, gliding metal badge. It measures 84 mm (3 1/4 inches) high X 48 mm (1 7/8 inches) wide. It is quite robust in construction.

The reverse has what appears to have been a bar or a slider? 12 mm (1/2 inch) wide (now absent) below the coronet at the join of the collar and garter. I am not seeing other places that may have had an attachment.

Any information on the identification, date and use (i.e cap insignia, equipment, martingale, etc badge) would be appreciated. Thank you.

with kindest regards to all,

Tim

[Luke H]

Looks like a Martingale to me. Unsure who it’s too but it’s not British military IMO.

[grenadierguardsman]

Thats nice.
Andy

[Terra Nova]

Thank you, Luke. That's a good start!

all the best,

Tim

[Terra Nova]

Originally Posted by grenadierguardsman

Thats nice.
Andy

Thank you, Andy!

all the best,

Tim

[Sonofacqms]

We have what looks like St. George and the Dragon at the bottom of this item, could it be an item of the 9th Btn the London Regt?

Rob

Hi Tim,

The garter with St George & the Dragon may relate to The Northumberland Fusiliers?

Mark

[btns]

It is a livery crest belonging to a member of the The Most Noble Order of the Garter.

The crown belongs to a child of a Sovereign or a child of Heir Apparent
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crown_(heraldry)

[Terra Nova]

Originally Posted by Sonofacqms

We have what looks like St. George and the Dragon at the bottom of this item, could it be an item of the 9th Btn the London Regt?

Rob

It's possible, thank you Rob.

[Terra Nova]

Originally Posted by Mark McClelland-Jones

Hi Tim,

The garter with St George & the Dragon may relate to The Northumberland Fusiliers?

Mark

A helpful suggestion, thank you.

all the best,

Tim

[Terra Nova]

Originally Posted by btns

It is a livery crest belonging to a member of the The Most Noble Order of the Garter.

The crown belongs to a child of a Sovereign or a child of Heir Apparent
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crown_(heraldry)

Thank you, btns,

This makes very good sense and is an excellent lead. The link to the various Crowns is particularly appreciated.

I wonder if the central device (lion over coronet) may give us any more precision as to which particular Child - or if we are at the end of the chase? Fingers crossed!

all the best,

Tim

[mike_vee]

Originally Posted by Terra Nova

Thank you, btns,

This makes very good sense and is an excellent lead. The link to the various Crowns is particularly appreciated.

I wonder if the central device (lion over coronet) may give us any more precision as to which particular Child - or if we are at the end of the chase? Fingers crossed!

all the best,

Tim

This site may help :

https://armorial.library.utoronto.ca...tatant-gardant


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[Terra Nova]

Originally Posted by mike_vee

This site may help :

https://armorial.library.utoronto.ca...tatant-gardant


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Hello Mike,

Please pardon my tardy reply.

This is very helpful, thank you. I believe that if may be connected to:

Frederick Augustus, Duke of York and Albany (1763 - 1827) or an heir or successor.

with kindest regards,

Tim