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Old 14-05-20, 02:17 PM
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Default Military and RAF whistles no being Faked

Found these two items on line today these are made to deceive be carful my Friends

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Old 14-05-20, 05:11 PM
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Found these two items on line today these are made to deceive be carful my Friends

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1st line of description states ‘reproduction’, so hardly setting out to deceive.
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If anyone buys one expecting an original, they have surely only themselves to blame for not reading the description.
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Old 14-05-20, 06:16 PM
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Take box away leave out in the rain for a few weeks By a dodgy dealer and you have a a repro sold as original this will happen mark my words.

Take a look at the markings direct copies

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Old 14-05-20, 07:04 PM
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It is easier to go to : https://www.acmewhistles.co.uk/buy-o...y-whistles-wwi and buy a "new" original from the manufactors. I bought one (Thunderer) and they are very good quality and amazing sound.
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Take box away leave out in the rain for a few weeks By a dodgy dealer and you have a a repro sold as original this will happen mark my words.

Take a look at the markings direct copies

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AM whistles never carried ACME THUNDERER MADE IN ENGLAND markings on the mouthpiece.
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Take box away leave out in the rain for a few weeks By a dodgy dealer and you have a a repro sold as original this will happen mark my words.

Take a look at the markings direct copies

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You don't have to leave it in the rain for a few weeks , the 'Acme' site listed produces a "distressed" version :

" These replica items are produced using some of the original tools and dies dated back from between 1914 & 1918"
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Old 23-05-20, 05:42 PM
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These have been around for some time now, far better off with the real thing, although, to be quite honest, I think that applies to any antique, if it is not original, what is the point in buying.


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Are the boxes not fantasy items anyway?....being an RAF Collector,I have never seen an original, long, or snail, in a box!
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Stephen is just trying to help to be fair to him. He must have wonders why he bothered. Not everyone is an ‘expert’ and new collectors particularly younger collectors need a bit of help.
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Old 19-06-20, 06:29 PM
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I think, given the ever growing amount of completely spurious stuff now being peddled as original by dishonest idiots, new collectors, as you mention, particularly, the younger ones, really would benefit from a considerable degree of help these days.


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Old 19-06-20, 06:54 PM
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Dear all,
It was just a heads up for those of us who were not aware of these dodgy good looking fakes on the market.

Maybe not sold as such but when a dodgy dealer gets hold of them need I say more.

Originals fetch good prices and a fellow collector may overspend on this fake tat that destroys new collectors confidence.
I have been collecting for 50 years and do not appreciate reproduction items made to deceive (yes they are) we see this every day on here when some one posts a precious new find only to find out it is repro.

That collector like me as a young collector and seasoned collector I am today I can only afford a certain amount and a mistake is frustrating and to many disheartening.

I have a lot of experience collecting but still get caught, IMO all repro items should be marked As such by Law but far to late now.

This is why I am a forum member to share knowledge the wealth of it on here is truly amazing.

Thank you Holyboy I had thought that! Much appreciated post

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