Newfoundland Cap Badge Reference

[mad4thcef]

I fianlly got one!

I am wondering what the catalogue reference and number would be Cox? etc.

Thanks in advance!

[Tinto]

Cox has it as 1st Newfoundland Regiment, 1068, on page 137.
Cheers,
Tinto

[mad4thcef]

Thanks
Rob

[jonhart55]

This is my collection Newfoundland Regiment of cap,collar badges and a shoulder title.

[mad4thcef]

Nice!

[Bill A]

Note, on another Newfoundland Regiment thread, the small badge shown in the centre of jonhart's image proven to be a collar. They are extremely scarce and appear to be only one orientation. (As evidence shows to date.)

[mad4thcef]

This came from a very olde collection.

Construction of these is very similar.

Lugs etc.

This could of been a protoype? I dont know.

[Bill A]

Hi Rob, Thanks for posting the image of the matching badges. Are these the same size as the cap badge? The one in question posted by johnhart is much smaller than the cap.
What makes you think these are prototypes?

[mad4thcef]

Bill,

These are the same size as cap/ collar.

I got the fuse the other night from Larry Thanx!

[Bill A]

Thanks.

[NFLDREGT]

Hi Jon

That's a nice group of Newfoundland badges.

I have seen half size, three quarter size and full size collars both looking same direction and at each other in brass, bronzed and gilt finishes.

Both officers and EM used private purchase badges. Standard issue was cap used as collars.

Also private purchase titles in at least five varieties.


Regards

Don

[jonhart55]

Any one here seen one of these 1st NFLD titles with a slide on the back rather then the lugs? Wondering if this was a issued thing or something the Bys might have had made on there own.

[jonhart55]

Sorry here's a picture of the front as well.

[NFLDREGT]

In 1914 before the First 500 went overseas a number of this type of titles were made up by a local St. John's jeweler. I believe it would only have been for officers but there are no records that I have found to confirm if they were issued or private purchase. I have at least one picture of an officer wearing as a collar badge. They were made from individual pieces and braised together with round wire loop lugs which usually haven't survived, as in the pictured one. A similar one was made in England but stamped with regular lugs. Not sure about the back plate as I haven't found them together and think it would have been difficult to work with the round loop lugs as the lugs were so short.

I would love to hear from anyone who can add to my limited knowledge in this field.

Thanks

Don

[Bill A]

Don/Jon, Do either of you have any provenance on the other FWW era Newfoundland titles?