17th County of London Pouch Badge

[Smudger 53]

Is this 17th County of London (Poplar & Stepney Rifles) a fantasy badge Please?
It has a QVC, but I have read that they were not fomed until 1908?

85mm x 70mm. Three threaded studs on reverse.
TIA

[Luke H]

Will this be for sale shortly too? If so forum rules are you should state this from the outset.

[Smudger 53]

Please see my reply to you on the RWF WM post

[Mike H]

The regiment existed from 1908 until 1967.
Its not a Victorian Crown,its a Guelphic crown.
Most commonly used by the Rifle Brigade on their belt plates. From approx 1823 right up to 1958,except for a 50 ish year period when the KC was used.
Appears on their last cap badge and used from 1952. But then carried on by the London Rifle Brigade Rangers.

[Luke H]

If you are selling you have to state so before not do a cover all post in another thread.

[leigh kitchen]

I don't regard it as my job to police the forum, but as I recall you seemed a little irked when you were asked a while back if you were seeking assistance re. badges you intended to sell.

Nobody's taking a pop at you - it's simply that a basic rule of the forum is that if you are intending to sell a badge that you are asking questions about then you state that you are intending to sell it.

I believe that there's also a request that you offer the badge in question to forum members first.

Whatever, the point is that the forum rules require/ request that you state that if you are selling the badge you want people to help you with information about, you say so.

Presumably you've been unaware of this?

[Smudger 53]

Understood, and apologies to all if i infinged the rules.

[manchesters]

The colour, the manufacture, the un natural wear and the extremely poor quality scream fake to me.

regards

[grenadierguardsman]

I agree, the quality is very poor.
Andy

[Smudger 53]

Thanks, I think you both are dead right. Looking at the Threads on the studs more closely, they are moulded and have a mould line on them so would never have taken a nut.
Cheers

[Alan O]

May I suggest that you take a break from researching your forthcoming ebay sales and contribute to the forum rather than just using it as a sales tool.

[Smudger 53]

With the greatest of pleasure Alan.
You really are a different breed to the antique community. They help out other dealers who are less experienced as well as collectors, and enjoy imparting their knowledge freely so everyone can benefit. A good look in the mirror may not go amiss to certain members.
I now fully understand why a very well known collector and seller left this site.

[Luke H]

Originally Posted by Smudger 53

With the greatest of pleasure Alan.
You really are a different breed to the antique community. They help out other dealers who are less experienced as well as collectors, and enjoy imparting their knowledge freely so everyone can benefit.

I think there’s a typo in there. Everyone = you.

Originally Posted by Smudger 53

A good look in the mirror may not go amiss to certain members.
I now fully understand why a very well known collector and seller left this site.

Perhaps you’d be so kind as to take a leaf out of his book then.

I shall look forward to reading what you write on the Facebook group about us.

[Alan O]

Originally Posted by Smudger 53

With the greatest of pleasure Alan.
You really are a different breed to the antique community. They help out other dealers who are less experienced as well as collectors, and enjoy imparting their knowledge freely so everyone can benefit. A good look in the mirror may not go amiss to certain members.
I now fully understand why a very well known collector and seller left this site.

I am afraid you are taking advantage of collectors knowledge and generosity in helping out fellow collectors for your own personal gain.

I am suspending you for a week and if you return please read the forum rules about asking for advice and the need to declare that you are looking for information with a view to selling items.

[Mike H]

Im thinking it maybe cast,and cast very very badly at that. Half the letters are misformed. I wouldnt buy it .