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Old 22-09-21, 11:36 AM
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Default Navy Trade/Rank Query

Hello,

I need the help of a Royal Navy buff to decipher this rank on a LS&GC medal please: ME A (P) 1

I suspect ME = Mechanical Engineer

Many thanks for looking, Keith
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Marine Engineering Artificer class1 is as far as I can go, can’t figure out the P though, sorry
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Old 22-09-21, 12:40 PM
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From late 1960's :

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marine engineering artificer (propulsion), MEA (P)
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HMS Defiance (shore establishment 1970) was the Fleet Maintenance Base at HMNB Devonport between 1972 and 1979, and again between 1981 and 1994 when it was absorbed into the main base. One ship was renamed HMS Defiance whilst serving as the establishment's depot ship.

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It is terribly impressed, never seen one so bad. It should read MEA(P)1 etc. with regular spacing as shown.

MEA(P) is the successor to the ERA introduced in September 1969 when the training changed to remove the Shipwright Artificer who became MEA(H). This being Hull.

As Mike says the (P) is propulsion but was only used for Tiffies that joined as ERAs pre Sept 69. Likewise (H) for Chippes that joined pre 9/69.

All Tiffies that joined after Sept 1969 were designated MEA.

As to the 1 in MEA(P)1 this denotes CPO, 2 being PO, 3 being L/H. CMEA being a (Charge) Chief Artificer.

In late 1979 the number system for Artificers rates was abolished becoming CCMEA (Charge Chief). CPOMEA, POMEA,etc.

From looking at the inscription he was awarded his long gong after Sept 69 and before late '79.

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Jim, Mike and CB thank you.

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It is terribly impressed, never seen one so bad. It should read MEA(P)1 etc. with regular spacing as shown.

MEA(P) is the successor to the ERA introduced in September 1969 when the training changed to remove the Shipwright Artificer who became MEA(H). This being Hull.

As Mike says the (P) is propulsion but was only used for Tiffies that joined as ERAs pre Sept 69. Likewise (H) for Chippes that joined pre 9/69.

All Tiffies that joined after Sept 1969 were designated MEA.

As to the 1 in MEA(P)1 this denotes CPO, 2 being PO, 3 being L/H. CMEA being a (Charge) Chief Artificer.

In late 1979 the number system for Artificers rates was abolished becoming CCMEA (Charge Chief). CPOMEA, POMEA,etc.

From looking at the inscription he was awarded his long gong after Sept 69 and before late '79.
I too thought the engraving was poor ?
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