Kimberley Regt - British & Commonwealth Military Badge Forum

iaindh · #1 13-02-14, 02:48 PM

As discussed in the thread on pre WWI SA Inf Regts, I'm going to try to get a thread going on individual units.
I'll start the ball rolling with my few Kimberley Regt badges.
Anyone who did post relevant badges on the previous thread, if they wouldn't mind posting them again as its useful for reference purposes. Thanks

KR 005.jpg KR 006.jpg

There are 5 badges here and each is different as you can see.

A lot of Kimberley Regt badges have pins, why was this?

regards, Iain

Milmed · #2 14-02-14, 04:36 AM

Looks like a slouch hat pin. Some early Transvaal Volunteer badges also came with vertical brooch pins for the slouch hat. Those with lugs were worn on SD caps. The one with the screws is probably post 1960's badge.

Steven

iaindh · #3 14-02-14, 09:31 AM

Thanks Steven, it seems to be fairly curious to the KR particularly although not many Transvaal Volunteer badges come up for sale.

I see a lot of KR with pins and even with the pin taken off and lugs put on.

Iain

Frank Kelley · #4 14-02-14, 10:56 AM

Hello Iain,
Very nice collection indeed, with the Kimberley Regt you often find the badges on pins for the campaign in GWSA as they were worn on the helmet.
Kind regards Frank

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Originally Posted by iaindh

Thanks Steven, it seems to be curious to the KR particularly although not many Transvaal Volunteer badges come up for sale.

I see a lot of KR with pins and even with the pin taken off and lugs put on.

Iain

iaindh · #5 14-02-14, 11:15 AM

Thanks Frank, though they are all 20th C!

You mean they affixed the badge to the Pagri with the pin?

On the subject of pagri (puggaree) badges, which often comes up as a subject in the British section, (long sliders,)(Indian Army you know,), I have a battered old NMR helmet and to fix the badge to the helmet, the lugs were cut off and it was sewn to the pagri!

kind regards, Iain

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Originally Posted by Frank Kelley

Hello Iain,
Very nice collection indeed, with the Kimberley Regt you often find the badges on pins for the campaign in GWSA as they were worn on the helmet.
Kind regards Frank

Frank Kelley · #6 14-02-14, 01:59 PM

Hello Iain,
Well the campaign in GWSA was fought in the 20th Century, I don't collect beyond 1918 as far as South African badges and plates go, so there is much that I would never have even looked at.
The example below is of this period and came with the owners GWSA trio, the pin is very typical for this campaign.
Kind regards Frank

Frank Kelley · #7 14-02-14, 02:02 PM

Hello Iain,
It was not so unusual to sew on badges to both helmets and caps in both the Anglo Boer War and in GWSA too.
Regards Frank

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Originally Posted by iaindh

Thanks Frank, though they are all 20th C!

You mean they affixed the badge to the Pagri with the pin?

On the subject of pagri (puggaree) badges, which often comes up as a subject in the British section, (long sliders,)(Indian Army you know,), I have a battered old NMR helmet and to fix the badge to the helmet, the lugs were cut off and it was sewn to the pagri!

kind regards, Iain

iaindh · #8 15-02-14, 02:30 AM

Hi Frank,

nice badge you posted and it's good to have it with the trio.

I hadn't come across the fact that badges were sewn on during the ABW and GSWA, it does account for badges with lugs cut off.

kind regards Iain

Madziro · #9 15-02-14, 01:23 PM

Interesting info on the Kimberley Regt. My info indicates that the badge with the voided "wreath" on both sides was Victorian made and the single void next to the diamond was post Victorian. Can anybody confirm this please. Have posted a few images of badges I have.

Frank Kelley · #10 15-02-14, 02:40 PM

Hello Dudley,
The badge as shown in my last post was worn during the GWSA campaign and I have always believed the voided examples are those early badges, they are much the same as both the Kimberley Rifles and the Victoria Rifles.
Kind regards Frank

iaindh · #11 15-02-14, 03:49 PM

Hi Dudley,

Nice badges and with the flash too.

Owen's has the voided badge as pre 1940.

Your Officer's badge, is it chrome or silver?

kind regards, Iain

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Originally Posted by Madziro

Interesting info on the Kimberley Regt. My info indicates that the badge with the voided "wreath" on both sides was Victorian made and the single void next to the diamond was post Victorian. Can anybody confirm this please. Have posted a few images of badges I have.

Frank Kelley · #12 15-02-14, 04:18 PM

Hello Iain,
I noted that date the other day in the book, if it can be called that, more like a catalogue really.

So what is it about the Kimberley Regiment that attracts you, is it the badge itself or their history, or, is it just another for the collection?
Regards Frank

iaindh · #13 16-02-14, 03:53 AM

Hi Frank,

Not always accurate but it all we have unfortunately.

My own interest is that the KR evolved as one of the original SA Regiments.

I decided quite a while ago that there were too many SA units with the Border wars and I would be happy just to have one badge from each of those but I would then collect certain original units for example the KR.

regards, Iain

Frank Kelley · #14 16-02-14, 08:42 AM

Hello Iain,
I like the regiments history as well as their badges, seeing the badges on this thread, perhaps I should have gone beyond the Great War.
Regards again Frank

iaindh · #15 16-02-14, 10:57 AM

Hi Frank,

yes they had an interesting history and background, the siege of course helped.

Did you ever see Brian Conyngham's post on the joint ILH/KR shoulder title award?
http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/for...t=battle+award

This is my own one with 2 types of collars, brass and bi metal.

KR collars 002.jpg

regards, Iain