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Old 20-05-24, 03:16 PM
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A very good sharp image
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Old 20-05-24, 04:29 PM
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A nice photo.
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Old 20-05-24, 04:32 PM
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Do you think he has a w/m dragon collar on his FSC or something else?
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Old 20-05-24, 04:39 PM
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I was thinking it looked like PoW's plumes but....
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Old 20-05-24, 04:43 PM
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Do you think he has a w/m dragon collar on his FSC or something else?
P of W's imo, as Leigh posted
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Old 20-05-24, 05:10 PM
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that's what I thought and is undocumented as far as I know.
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Old 20-05-24, 08:08 PM
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A very good sharp image
He appears to have a 'company best shot' x rifles and star on his spare tunic. One wonders why he is not 'best shot of sergeants', or indeed a 'sergeant of best shooting company'?

[I make two assumptions: his tunic would never be allowed on parade, and the date is post-1902].
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He appears to be of a territorial Bn. by the metal shoulder title. Having been studying my copy of Grumpy's book, I too would expect something else, such as an official prize badge on his lower right sleeve.
The unofficial prize badges that one sees all over the arms in photos like this are simply tacked on, not fully sewn down. As mentioned, he could not have worn this on parade and I believe for the photo op only.

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He is a member of a volunteer battalion, not a territorial battalion.

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The STs look to be metal to my eye, not the white embroidered type with a V for volunteers?

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The STs look to be metal to my eye, not the white embroidered type with a V for volunteers?

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Old 21-05-24, 06:57 AM
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Apart from the fact that as far as I’m aware only volunteers were permitted to wear shooting prize badges on their uniform, the collars are the give away as that style of white metal dragon was only worn by volunteers.

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Apart from the fact that as far as I’m aware only volunteers were permitted to wear shooting prize badges on their uniform, the collars are the give away as that style of white metal dragon was only worn by volunteers.
The VB versus TF debate swings on date 1908 of course.
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"volunteers were permitted to wear shooting prize badges on their uniform" ......... I know it happened but surely only for one-off bragging rights?
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Old 21-05-24, 04:40 PM
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I know that the VB/TF were slow changing uniforms and there was a lag before they matched the Regular Army's dress code but it would be very late for a side cap to be worn in 1908 or later. I would agree that he is VB.
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The fact that it is a Cabinet Photo rather than a postcard photo would date it in my experience to c. 1903 - 1904.

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