medals

[barriefield-brian]

I picked these up at an auction a few years back. Just checking what are missing ribbons and thought there might be some interest. 1914-15 medal to D Creighton but the humanity to T Creighton. Maybe the same fellow? I think these are British but have another 1914-15 medal to a Rif: Brig: ( rifle brigade) Is it British also? Cheers Brian

Hello Brian,

Looks as though this is the same man. Although the 1914-15 Star is stamped with the initial 'D', the Army service number (12469) is infact for a Thomas Creighton, who enlisted at Belfast, in 1903.

Interestingly, there are two MICs for 12469 Pte. Creighton, Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers, one with the initial 'D' and another with the Christian name of Thomas, but these are obviouisly one in the same man.

In addition to the 1914-15 Star, Thomas was also awarded the British War Medal and Victory Medal. You may find THIS LINK of interest.

It looks as though he was discharged either wounded or sick on 25th April 1918 , and was awarded the Silver War Badge (sometimes referred to as the Silver Wound Badge) List B/716.

Not sure from your post, but think you are asking which ribbons the medals would have had... can't help you with the Humanity Medal I'm afraid, but the Star would have had the ribbon pictured below.

Hope this is of help.

Ribbon.JPG

Regards,

Peter.

[Edit: Forgot to mention that Thomas first entered the Theatre of War on 10th July 1915 (Balkans)]

[geezer#199]

My wife's grandfather fought for Canada in WW 1 and was awarded the 1914-1915 Star, the medal on the left. It was awarded to all who saw service in any theatre of war against the central powers between 05 August 1914 and 31 December 1915, except those who were eligible for the 1914 Star. Canada considered "overseas" to be ervice beyond the 3 mile limit and hence many RCN small ships sere entitled to this star.

The ribbon is a watered ribbon (1.25inches wide) is shaded left tot right: red, white and blue. This medal was always issued with the British War Medal and the Victory Medal.

71,150 were issued to Canadians, total issued were 2,366,000.

Recipients name was engraved on the reverse.

Originally Posted by barriefield-brian

have another 1914-15 medal to a Rif: Brig: ( rifle brigade)

Brian,

Are you able to provide the name and service number stamped on the Rifle Brigade medal, at all? If so, we could perhaps find out a bit more about the Rifleman it was awarded to and possibly reveal some of the bravery and history attached to it.

Regards,

Peter.

[barriefield-brian]

Ribbon for the humanitarian may be hard to find . Here is the other medal to Pte. R.J. Finnis. S-5424. Cheers Brian

[barriefield-brian]

Forgot pic

Brian,

Found the MIC for S/5424 Rifleman Richard J Finnis – entered theatre of war 22nd July 1915 (France) and was awarded 'Pip, Squeak & Wilfred'.

Rifleman Finnis appears to have been posted to Class Z, after hostilities. Class Z meant that a soldier was placed on reserve. It was authorised by an Army Order of 3rd December 1918, because there were fears that Germany would not accept the terms of any peace treaty, and therefore the British Government decided it would be wise to be able to quickly recall trained men in the eventuality of the resumption of hostilities.

Soldiers who were being demobilised, particularly those who had agreed to serve "for the duration", were at first posted to Class Z. They returned to civilian life but with an obligation to return if called upon. The Z Reserve was abolished on 31 March 1920.

Regards,

PJ

[barriefield-brian]

Thanks for the info and link. Never heard of the pip, squeak, and wilfred. Cheers Brian

Sorry Brian; 'Pip, Squeak & Wilfred' are the common three campaign medals from WWI - Star, British War Medal and Victory Medal.

When just the BWM & VM were awarded, they are sometimes referred to as 'Mutt & Jeff'.

Regards,

PJ

[barriefield-brian]

Jogged my memory, looked and found this Efficiency medal that came with the creighton group. Totally forgot about it. Its too bad the war medal and star were missing. This one engraved Sgt. T. Creighton Hast. & P.E.R. Cheers Brian

[geezer#199]

Nice Medal, my wife's grandfather was awarded one along with 5 others, 3 of which were from the first world war along with the 1939 to 1945 War Medal, CVSM and the King George VI Coronation Medal - 1937

Jack

Originally Posted by barriefield-brian

Hast. & P.E.R.

Hast. & P.E.R. = The Hastings and Prince Edward Regiment (LINK)

H&PER.jpg

PJ

[daverpol]

The Ulster SPCA may have some archive material concerning the Humanity to Animals Medal.
http://www.uspca.co.uk/

[Peter Brydon]

No mention of the Ulster Humanity Awards Committee in the Medal Year Book 2009 ( the most up to date one I have ).

The Belfast Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals and the Dublin Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals are mentioned.

I wonder if the wording on the Humanity medal dates it post 1922 ?

P.B.

[barriefield-brian]

I sent an e-mail today to the Ulster Hamane society, have yet to hear back. The engraving not too clear in the pic, S/Con T. Creighton U.S.C. 1925 Cheers Brian