Commando badge

[HamandJam]

That makes sense! Cheers JB

Originally Posted by grey_green_acorn

Probably should read three pence halfpenny (three and a half pennies).

35 pennies was two shillings and eleven pence in 1945 when a pint of beer was about one shilling and two pence. There were 12 pennies in a shilling, 240 pennies in a pound.

Tim

[Mike B]

I wish we could buy them at even 50 pence now ;-)

Season's greeting to all
Mike

[HamandJam]

This is a printed one.

Seasons greetings!

Cheerio,
JB

[HamandJam]

Another mystery are the red dagger khaki background badges. Some theories are army commando to distinguish from the Royal Marines commando? There always has been rivalry between the two.

Cheers

JB

[Mike B]

It is said they were manufactured for Army Commandos but were overtaken by disbandment of the Army Commandos - hence always found in unworn condition - speculation though - awaiting definitive evidence.
Season's Greeting to all
Mike

[Frank Kelley]

Very nice, I take it that is printed upon that red backed fabric?

Originally Posted by HamandJam

This is a printed one.

Seasons greetings!

Cheerio,
JB

[HamandJam]

Yes it is Frank,

Cheers JB

Originally Posted by Frank Kelley

Very nice, I take it that is printed upon that red backed fabric?

[grey_green_acorn]

Some extracts from Royal Marine Dress Regulations 1945 concerning the printed “dagger” commando formation sign.

Also from 1971 when the price of an embroidered sign was (only) 1 penny.

Tim

[Frank Kelley]

That is very interesting, I see the 23rd of November 1945 piece refers to embroidered badges rather than printed, what is the date of the second piece that actually mentions the printed badge?

Originally Posted by grey_green_acorn

Some extracts from Royal Marine Dress Regulations 1945 concerning the printed “dagger” commando formation sign.

Also from 1971 when the price of an embroidered sign was (only) 1 penny.

Tim

[mike_vee]

Originally Posted by Frank Kelley

That is very interesting, I see the 23rd of November 1945 piece refers to embroidered badges rather than printed, what is the date of the second piece that actually mentions the printed badge?

I could be wrong but I think the date (23/11/1945) was when the document was to be amended.

The document is titled "RMRO 1999 Dress Regulations" and states that "the dress regulations have been approved since 1939. So the embroidered badge was "regulation" at that time.

The sub-section 'Commando Group' appears to have been marked up in 1945 as it needed updating.

The second document "RMRO 2135" shows the amendments that have to be made to the first document.

Found another document titled "Notes on RMRO" and in 1945 there is an entry about "RMRO 1999".

1999 - Dress Regulations(see also RMRO 2005/45 , 2135/45, 2156/45, 302/46.

https://rmhistorical.com/files/conte...0on%20RMRO.pdf

[Frank Kelley]

Very nice. a scarce little badge.

Originally Posted by HamandJam

Yes it is Frank,

Cheers JB

[grey_green_acorn]

Originally Posted by Frank Kelley

That is very interesting, I see the 23rd of November 1945 piece refers to embroidered badges rather than printed, what is the date of the second piece that actually mentions the printed badge?

I was trying to point out the inconsistencies in the documentation. The reference to the printed version was published soon after the reference to the embroidered version and the amendments were apparently an attempt to catch up on changes to dress regulations not previously promulgated between 1939 and the end of the war.
Like most military documents covering dress and badges there are errors and inconsistencies. In wartime there were perhaps more important things to consider!

Tim

[Frank Kelley]

Okay, thanks Tim, I certainly agree there would be far more important matters to be getting on with towards the end of the war than a little badge.

[Frank Kelley]

Yes indeed, I have never had one of those with any provenance, nor have I ever heard of such an example.

Originally Posted by HamandJam

Another mystery are the red dagger khaki background badges. Some theories are army commando to distinguish from the Royal Marines commando? There always has been rivalry between the two.

Cheers

JB

[HamandJam]

Here is pic of a printed, painted, embroidered black red and khaki red all to the period.

Cheers

JB

Originally Posted by Frank Kelley

Yes indeed, I have never had one of those with any provenance, nor have I ever heard of such an example.