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Old 02-12-22, 06:13 PM
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Just arrived today. Anyone know what period this style helmet was worn from/to? Dated 1930 to rear, and I have seen images that look to pre date 1930. Was this helmet in use at the same time as the cox comb? Probably right up Dave's street this one
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Old 02-12-22, 06:48 PM
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I know H division were the local fire brigade in ww2, not sure if they were before that, but if they were, perhaps the ball top was to signify this?
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Billy,

"H" Division was the Headquarters Div. Recruits upon joining were allocated a "H" Div. number. After the completion of their training, they were posted to territorial divisions e.g. "A", "B", "C", "D", "E", "F" and "G" The Fire Brigade was until 1941 part of "H" Div. and was an integral part of the City Police with full police powers. The Chief Constable was the Director of the Fire Brigade. The Chief Officer was either a Chief Supt or Supt. Apart from the fire helmet plates, all other badges and insignia (in white metal) worn by the FB was identical to that worn by the rest of the force.

There were several variations of the "ball" top helmet which were worn between approx. 1920 and 1938. At other times (Pre. 1920 and post 1938) a combed helmet was worn. The photos show recruits under training.

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Thanks Dave. Great information as usual. Do you know if it's possible to trace a PC from a collar number alone?
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Billy,

No, all but impossible. The numbers were re-issued, and they changed each time he/she moved divisions, and they were regularly moved, so much so that the numbers and letters were sewn in place as opposed to being pushed through and held in place by pins. They sewed them on so as to make sure the clothing was not damaged by continually removing and replacing them.

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Thank's Dave.
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