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05-12-11, 06:22 PM
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It's the School of Musketry.
Simon. 
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05-12-11, 06:24 PM
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05-12-11, 06:50 PM
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the badge you show is similar to that of the School of Musketry c.1902-19, but this particular example with an oversize crown, I feel is more likely to be a knock up and I have yet to see one in the flesh that I'd be happy to regard as genuine, they appear in both gilding and white metals and often with folding tabs inside the crown to hold a red felt backing, all are fakes IMO. The genuine example (KK 1050) has a smaller and more common style of crown found on British badges. KK also state that this badge appeared with a QVC, although I've yet to see an example. I would post an example of a genuine badge but I'm unable to at the moment! here are a few old threads Best regards Andy
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05-12-11, 06:58 PM
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Hi Andy. If you look at Peter Doyle's book on British badges of the First World War; on page 15. There is a nice shot of a cap badge very similar with a very large crown compared to the rifles.
Simon.
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05-12-11, 07:00 PM
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Or there again it could Edwards and Langley 23A.
P.B.
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05-12-11, 07:10 PM
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Andy Last edited by 2747andy; 05-12-11 at 07:52 PM.
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06-12-11, 10:21 AM
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I think you will find they are arm badges worn above the rank for men qualified as Serjeants of Musketry. These were at one time the most prestigious positions in each infantry and cavalry unit. They ranked as First Class Staff Serjeants at that time (before 1915) and were marked out by the badge shown of a one piece large crown and crossed rifles surmounting 3 chevrons. This is why they do not have sliders, in that they were worn rather like cavalry arm badges.
There was also a junior officer in each unit at RHQ level who had to be so qualified and who the 'Staff Serjeant' was there to assist. In many ways they equated to today's training officer and training warrant officer. They tend to be overlooked and yet at one time were a linchpin in each and every unit and were trained at School's of Musketry that existed right across the Empire. At one point there were two such schools in Britain, three in India (one for each Presidency), one in Canada, one in South Africa, one in New Zealand and one in Australia. Most of these schools still exist as schools of infantry, although those in India moved location in some cases after partition. They were once all linked and part of a large empire of musketry instruction that played no small part in the pre-eminence of the British and Commonwealth expeditionary forces of WW1. Last edited by Toby Purcell; 06-12-11 at 06:35 PM.
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06-12-11, 12:15 PM
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Didnt someone mention Edwards and Langley 23A earlier ?
P.B.
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06-12-11, 01:05 PM
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seems it's a 50/50 split on being a good one then.
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