Royal Fusiliers Vols. - British & Commonwealth Military Badge Forum

Mike · #1 25-03-10, 11:32 AM

Ebay pickup. (apologies to other members bidding)

would this be a volunteers badge? (whitemetal)

height is about 99mm, or it will be when I straighten out the tip of the top flame which is bent back over.

and does anyone have an issue number for the Royal Fusiliers badges that were done in detail in the Military Historical Society's Bulletin? (I'm sure I have the issue in question but cannot find it)

wright241 · #2 25-03-10, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike

Ebay pickup. (apologies to other members bidding)

would this would be a volunteers badge? (whitemetal)

and does anyone have a page number for the Royal Fusiliers badges that were done in detail in the Military Historical Society's Bulletin? (I'm sure I have the issue in question but cannot find it)

Yes it is. Personally I would leave the patina as it is. It helps with
these fur caps.

Mike · #3 25-03-10, 11:44 AM

I was thinking about a 'degreaser' only, not metal polish, but if it makes a mess of it you can't reverse the process of course, so I'll give it some thought.
I am going to have a go at that flame tip though. The last Victorian lugs like this I straightened were rock hard, so you really have to take your time.

wright241 · #4 25-03-10, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike

I was thinking about a 'degreaser' only, not metal polish, but if it makes a mess of it you can't reverse the process of course, so I'll give it some thought.

Mike,
It looks like verdigris. Tricky that because the 'standard' lemon juice on
a small (tiny) cut down cotton bud is probably going to remove the patina (on the front,
I would try it on the rear first). You might want to go along to a old fashioned jeweller for
another solution (no pun intended...).
david

Mike · #5 25-03-10, 12:02 PM

Yes the verdigris is a difficult one, sure to make a clean spot I don't want if I have a go at it.

I think I'll probably leave it a while as I'm a bit excited about this one, don't want to do anything in haste. It's made my day, been a while since I bought anything decent and 'untouched'.

Keith Blakeman · #6 25-03-10, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike

Yes the verdigris is a difficult one, sure to make a clean spot I don't want if I have a go at it.

I think I'll probably leave it a while as I'm a bit excited about this one, don't want to do anything in haste. It's made my day, been a while since I bought anything decent and 'untouched'.

Damn, I missed that one!!

Lovely badge although they do turn up firly regularly as Bosleys, maybe because more than one on the VB's wore them. To date I'm only aware of the 1st VB having their own intergal scroll at the base.

wright241 · #7 25-03-10, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike

Yes the verdigris is a difficult one, sure to make a clean spot I don't want if I have a go at it.

I think I'll probably leave it a while as I'm a bit excited about this one, don't want to do anything in haste. It's made my day, been a while since I bought anything decent and 'untouched'.

I got hold of a Northumberland Fusiliers WM Volunteers (the fur cap and one of the ones with the scroll) and the FC had just a touch of the dreaded 'v' at the back. Although the 'treatment' did leave a slight mark, it was nothing to write home about. You would need to something to neutralize it in some way as I was informed that it can 'spread' if left.... I am not sure where all my NF stuff is at the moment otherwise I'd take a snapshot of the the (old) affected area. I used a dentists 'tool' to get the worse of the 'lumps' off (under a glass) and the rest was fairly easy. Good luck.

PS: Ref the RF article - any idea of the year. I am still ploughing through trying to complete an (electronic) index for ALL the articles in the MHS journals... Its bl..dy hard going.

Mike · #8 25-03-10, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by wright241

I got hold of a Northumberland Fusiliers WM Volunteers (the fur cap and one of the ones with the scroll) and the FC had just a touch of the dreaded 'v' at the back. Although the 'treatment' did leave a slight mark, it was nothing to write home about. You would need to something to neutralize it in some way as I was informed that it can 'spread' if left.... I am not sure where all my NF stuff is at the moment otherwise I'd take a snapshot of the the (old) affected area. I used a dentists 'tool' to get the worse of the 'lumps' off (under a glass) and the rest was fairly easy. Good luck.

PS: Ref the RF article - any idea of the year. I am still ploughing through trying to complete an (electronic) index for ALL the articles in the MHS journals... Its bl..dy hard going.

Sounds like a nice item to my county regiment, looking forward to seeing it.

Re: MHS; if I recall correctly someone 'went to town' on the RF's and wrote a series of well illustrated articles, I cannot remember what year though. I will have another look at them tonight. (I probably have a hundred issues loose and jumbled up).

Mike · #9 25-03-10, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Keith Blakeman

Damn, I missed that one!!

Lovely badge although they do turn up firly regularly as Bosleys, maybe because more than one on the VB's wore them. To date I'm only aware of the 1st VB having their own intergal scroll at the base.

Do you recall any prices Keith? (for this type)

wright241 · #10 25-03-10, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike

Sounds like a nice item to my county regiment, looking forward to seeing it.

Re: MHS; if I recall correctly someone 'went to town' on the RF's and wrote a series of well illustrated articles, I cannot remember what year though. I will have another look at them tonight. (I probably have a hundred issues loose and jumbled up).

Mike,
There are some pictures in my Northumberland Fusiliers album - or are you after some close-ups?
david

Mike · #11 25-03-10, 08:19 PM

Hi David, no that's fine, Just 'rediscovered' your NF album, geat stuff.

Keith Blakeman · #12 25-03-10, 09:07 PM

'fraid not. Ought to be in the £80 range I'd have thought, maybe higher. Robbie (Leighbuzzly) always seemed to have one on sale a couple of years back.

Peter Brydon · #13 26-03-10, 10:06 AM

Mike,
I have all the MHS Bulletins and cant find the article you are thinking about.

There is a book "The First Londons" by R.E.Handley FRICS which covers some badges of the battalion and in fact an example of your badge appears on the dust jacket.
P.B.

Mike · #14 26-03-10, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 8thfoot

Mike,
I have all the MHS Bulletins and cant find the article you are thinking about. P.B.

Hi PB, I must have been looking at the article on RF Forage cap badges, Volume 53 (No. 211) Feb 2003, thinking it covered fur cap as well. Mind playing tricks. But that is a well illustrated piece anyway 54 badges...very nice (by Douglas Twomey)

Keith Blakeman · #15 29-03-10, 12:58 PM

.....................as if by magic, however I think your (earlier?) one is a lot nicer Mike, maybe an officers one..are you sure it's not silver

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