RN COMMANDO S/T's ??

[Mike B]

Hello Elwe
Unsure, but suggest late war or after glue back - I would think that particular manufacture was after RN COMMANDO one piece was introduced - not saying all RN Commandos wore the same pattern titles either (ROYAL NAVY / COMMANDO, R.N. COMMANDO) - in fact not easy to define the parameters of RN Commandos - what about Landing Craft Obstruction Clearance Units (LCOCUs)? as well as the designated 'Beach Commandos'
A big subject, no easy answers, but production looks late - as for D-Day - just not sure ...

Official line

ROYAL NAVY - 1942 embroidered - 1943 printed

R N COMMANDO - 1943 - Printed available Oct 43
Although instructed, did wear of 2 Part cease? - photos suggest not in all units

Scope for unofficial variation existed


Would welcome thoughts of others here - particularly on viability of post war wear.

Mike

[Sonofacqms]

I have a Royal Navy title in my collection given to me by my old boss Jack Gamble, I think he joined up probably in 1942-43 and was a medic, he gave me one of his titles, bottom right in the photo, embroidered as can be seen.

From what I remember him saying most of his overseas service was in the Far East.

Rob

[elwe23]

Thanks Mike for the details and further researches.

@Sonofacqms Yes I sent a photo to Mike B from June 44 with this exact pattern. The person in the photo was a commando chaplain with a white collar so your info seems realistic.
Your pattern is a bit different from the one I posted. Bigger like the Royal Marines ones and the letters are separated and not joined like in my exemple (cf YA and AV).

Would love to have others opinions / experiences.

[Mike B]

Originally Posted by Sonofacqms

I have a Royal Navy title in my collection given to me by my old boss Jack Gamble, I think he joined up probably in 1942-43 and was a medic, he gave me one of his titles, bottom right in the photo, embroidered as can be seen.

From what I remember him saying most of his overseas service was in the Far East.

Rob

Great to see attributed items - it helps fill in gaps of our collectove knowledge - thanks for sharing

Yes - theatre of war is always a factor of what worn and when ...

[Tonomachi]

What about this one? I don't have it yet so I can't hit it with a black light.

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[elwe23]

Never seen this one before. Looks very handmade. Like an early version.
Looks a bit like this one but typo is thiner hard to say.

[NEMO]

Originally Posted by Sonofacqms

I have a Royal Navy title in my collection given to me by my old boss Jack Gamble, I think he joined up probably in 1942-43 and was a medic, he gave me one of his titles, bottom right in the photo, embroidered as can be seen.

From what I remember him saying most of his overseas service was in the Far East.

Rob

your badge Is Far East pre 1945 manufacture,

[NEMO]

Bit late coming to this .a few examples I own .

[elwe23]

Originally Posted by NEMO

Bit late coming to this .a few examples I own .

Amazing collection here Nemo.
Could you post the date or theatre of usage for each if you know their back story ?
Plenty of different backings I have never seen before.

[Mike B]

Originally Posted by NEMO

Bit late coming to this .a few examples I own .

Hello Michael
Although I have seen a fair few different ROYAL NAVY titles I have not seen much attribution etc to help define where made etc - can you please take us through the examples you posted and perhaps provide a few pointers. I for one would much appreciate it.

I do know the attached painted one is said to be Kabrit version from memory
Regards
Mike

[Tonomachi]

Originally Posted by elwe23

Never seen this one before. Looks very handmade. Like an early version.
Looks a bit like this one but typo is thiner hard to say.

Thanks for your input and the photograph. I just got the tab and hit it with a black light and it does not fluorescence.

[JerryBB]

where in the chronology do this version date from?

being sold as WWII or are they a fake?

[Mike B]

Originally Posted by JerryBB

where in the chronology do this version date from?

being sold as WWII or are they a fake?

Much faked over the last year or so. There are two genuine variants of the one piece title that I am aware of - one larger of WW2 vintage, one smaller worn just post-war. They will feature in the book I am drafting on Commando insignia to accompany my Commando Compendium.
Hoping this helps - warry to say too much given the current attention of fakers.
I am sorry I do not like the reverse of the one illustrated which resembles N F recent production
Regards
Mike

[JerryBB]

Originally Posted by Mike B

Much faked over the last year or so. There are two genuine variants of the one piece title that I am aware of - one larger of WW2 vintage, one smaller worn just post-war. They will feature in the book I am drafting on Commando insignia to accompany my Commando Compendium.
Hoping this helps - warry to say too much given the current attention of fakers.
I am sorry I do not like the reverse of the one illustrated which resembles N F recent production
Regards
Mike

Thanks Mike, look forward to your book

[elwe23]

Originally Posted by Mike B

Much faked over the last year or so. There are two genuine variants of the one piece title that I am aware of - one larger of WW2 vintage, one smaller worn just post-war. They will feature in the book I am drafting on Commando insignia to accompany my Commando Compendium.
Hoping this helps - warry to say too much given the current attention of fakers.
I am sorry I do not like the reverse of the one illustrated which resembles N F recent production
Regards
Mike

I'm surprised Mike. Is there a genuine one piece WW2 Royal Navy Commando written like that that exists ?
I haven't seen any worn in my photos researches I sent you.