What is this Badge?

[Lionheart]

Can anyone tell me the origin of this Badge please? Size is 4.5 cm x 4.5 cm. Possibly made from Brass. I have enclosed 2 pics to aid identification.

thank you

[johnG]

The cross is the State Badge of New South Wales, Australia, being a detail taken from the coat of arms of the State. Worn as a badge in this form by the Royal New South Wales Regiment.

Edited to add: I would have expected to see a scroll underneath it, bearing the words 'Royal N.S.W. Regiment', but perhaps that was added later.

[GriffMJ]

Might it be the cross belt pouch badge (or sabretache) of the "QVC" New South Wales Regiment?

[Lionheart]

Thank you guys, It has a King's crown and no indication of a scroll having been attached.

is there any real value to it?

[badgecollector]

Hi lionheart
It is the standard pattern of the NSW Military Forces, circa 1900.
Made in gilt, silver, brass and white metal and used as a cap, belt buckle plate and as yours is a pouch badge. Pouch badge because it has screw post attachments
BTW, its not a kings crown, as it is circa Queen Victoria, but carried through after her death and its worth between $25-$100. they are one of the more common badges for the period. nice item and the pouch badge is harder to get than the cap badge
BC

[Donny B.]

In his book, AUSTRALIAN ARMY BADGES Part 2 1900-1930 Cossum shows what appears to be an identical badge which he describes as:

NSW DEFENCE FORCES STAFF

Height: Hat,Cap, pouch and crossbelt badge 46mm
Finishes: Gilded brass, whitemetal, silver.
* Badges made with different attachments
ie Lugs, screws and slide attachments
** The badge was also carried over from the pre federation era.

I am not sure how carrying it over from the pre federation era would have affected the crown.

Grebert describes a similar badge with a similar crown 47mm high and as being "early 1900s"

Donny B.

[omok1]

Pouch Badge NSW Military Forces early 1900s. The crown is known as Imperial State Crown. Check Grebert Page 89 (Military Badges Of The Australian Colonies 1800-1903)Nice badge and worth at least $100

[Lionheart]

Originally Posted by badgecollector

Hi lionheart
It is the standard pattern of the NSW Military Forces, circa 1900.
Made in gilt, silver, brass and white metal and used as a cap, belt buckle plate and as yours is a pouch badge. Pouch badge because it has screw post attachments
BTW, its not a kings crown, as it is circa Queen Victoria, but carried through after her death and its worth between $25-$100. they are one of the more common badges for the period. nice item and the pouch badge is harder to get than the cap badge
BC

Thanks for that info Badgecollector, your input is much appreciated.

[Lionheart]

Originally Posted by Donny B.

In his book, AUSTRALIAN ARMY BADGES Part 2 1900-1930 Cossum shows what appears to be an identical badge which he describes as:

NSW DEFENCE FORCES STAFF

Height: Hat,Cap, pouch and crossbelt badge 46mm
Finishes: Gilded brass, whitemetal, silver.
* Badges made with different attachments
ie Lugs, screws and slide attachments
** The badge was also carried over from the pre federation era.

I am not sure how carrying it over from the pre federation era would have affected the crown.

Grebert describes a similar badge with a similar crown 47mm high and as being "early 1900s"

Donny B.

Very interesting Donny and I thank you.

[Lionheart]

Originally Posted by omok1

Pouch Badge NSW Military Forces early 1900s. The crown is known as Imperial State Crown. Check Grebert Page 89 (Military Badges Of The Australian Colonies 1800-1903)Nice badge and worth at least $100

Thank you too omok for your input.

I am most appreciative of all the constructive input you guys have given me.