Queen's all brass badge

[Keith Blakeman]

Originally Posted by Silver Tourist

Good evening.

And, by contrast, at the other end of the scale is the hallmarked silver version. I wonder who wore that?


S.T.

Probably some snooty officer who never came within fifty miles of the front line.

Edit.

I realize that's a pretty nasty comment to make not knowing the history behind the badge, for all I know it may have been left at home while he fought and died. One does wonder how many HM badges were made and who wore them, was it someone with money to burn straight out of Officer Training, was it expected by their peers to have to purchase an expensive item to keep credibility? Was it acceptable for a low ranking officer to have such an item whist his superiors didn't? Who knows?

[Silver Tourist]

Good morning.

As the Member observes of his own posting, a rather nasty and churlish comment, barely worthy of such a Forum.

And one has to wonder what new, and perhaps younger Collectors, might make of such observations.

S.T.

[wardog]

Keith had second thoughts about his comment and stated so-when he could have just altered it. No reason to have a dig at him. I will not comment on the usual tone of your posts. Paul.

[Malcolm Davey]

Originally Posted by Silver Tourist

Good evening.

And, by contrast, at the other end of the scale is the hallmarked silver version. I wonder who wore that?

I wonder, he said ironically, whether there is a serarate Pattern Number for such an example?

As ever, sitting on the desk next to me.

Enjoy.

S.T.

It would be nice if we could see some of the many examples of HM Silver badges you so often mention sitting on your desk or around you
Malc

[enfant perdus]

When it came time to stamp the all-GM badges, they theoretically could have used any extant dies for the 5th (TF) Queen's. Has anybody compared a BB 5th to an all-GM? Were pattern numbers ever established for the 5th?

[2747andy]

so far I've managed to identify at least 7 differing die/maker variations, all subtly different. I've also shown what they would have looked like back in 1916 when issued, almost anodised aluminium in appearance.

Andy

[KLR]

No actually Enfant, the bimetal badges were (obviously) made from two dies whereas the all GM were (obviously) made from a one piece die.

[GTB]

Originally Posted by 2747andy

so far I've managed to identify at least 7 differing die/maker variations, all subtly different. I've also shown what they would have looked like back in 1916 when issued, almost anodised aluminium in appearance.

Andy

Am I correct in saying, or seeing right, that re the L/H badge in middle row the lamb's tail is detached from the hindquarters, unlike all the other versions?
GTB

[ubervamp]

Here's mine :

[Rockape]

Originally Posted by wardog

Keith had second thoughts about his comment and stated so-when he could have just altered it. No reason to have a dig at him. I will not comment on the usual tone of your posts. Paul.

I will comment on the input from S/T at the risk of being banned from the forum.
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Dear S/T,

When are we going to see an end your elitist and troll-like remarks made about O/R badges, and also when you will you stop sniping at other members for their use of grammar:

http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/for...#post218129#16

http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/for...#post218127#10

These are just two examples.

You have your HM badges while others collect guilding metal/white metal badges. I don't see how one badge is at a one end of a scale compared to another badge as in your post above (#15). The metals are different yes, the scarcity is different yes, but to me they both have a place in history....on the same scale.

Sincerely

[KLR]

I suspect you mean misuse of grammar (and spelling).

[enfant perdus]

Originally Posted by KLR

No actually Enfant, the bimetal badges were (obviously) made from two dies whereas the all GM were (obviously) made from a one piece die.

Right, but the 5th Queen's was one piece, being blackened brass.

[GTB]

Originally Posted by enfant perdus

When it came time to stamp the all-GM badges, they theoretically could have used any extant dies for the 5th (TF) Queen's. Has anybody compared a BB 5th to an all-GM? Were pattern numbers ever established for the 5th?

I would suppose that the all-GM and 5th (TF) badge would have used same die. The blackening has nothing to do with the die - it is a process that would be applied after the striking. The finished product could then justify a pattern.
GTB

[Alan O]

The same die would have been used only if the contract had gone to the same company. I don't know who made the economy badges but probably Gaunts or Firmin got most of the contracts. Woodward certainly made some but whether this was as a prime contractor or a sub contrcator I am not sure. I do know that Gaunt did sub-contract some of their badge contracts during WW1 to other companies. Not surprising when the oreders could run to 10,000s.

The TF from 1908-15 may well have used a smaller firm who would cater for their very small production runs of a single Bn's few hundred badges.

[GTB]

While on the subject of Queen's BB badges, it would be well to recall the Great War Public Schools OTC contingents, specifically Charterhouse and Reigate Grammar, who wore these versions.
GTB