British & Commonwealth Military Badge Forum

Recent Books by Forum Members

   

Go Back   British & Commonwealth Military Badge Forum > Everything Else > Off topic

 Other Pages: Galleries, Links etc.
Glossary  Books by Forum Members     Canadian Pre 1914    CEF    CEF Badge Inscriptions   Canadian post 1920     Canadian post 1953     British Cavalry Badges     Makers' Marks    Pipers' Badges  Canadian Cloth Titles  Books  SEARCH
 
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #16  
Old 25-11-21, 07:23 AM
Chacal's Avatar
Chacal Chacal is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: North of the Wall of Antoninus Pius.
Posts: 1,776
Default

This sounds like re-branding the Special Forces Support Group, or have I misunderstood the unit's role?

Graham
__________________
I am looking to purchase items from the British Administration Police & Prison Services in Cyrenaica & Tripolitania; Eritrea & Ethiopia; Somalia (f. Italian Somaliland) & British Somaliland; & the Dodecanese: insignia, documents, photographs etc.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 25-11-21, 08:48 AM
grey_green_acorn's Avatar
grey_green_acorn grey_green_acorn is online now
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Kent, UK
Posts: 5,821
Default

Perhaps this earlier design was rejected?

Anyone remember it?

Tim
Attached Images
File Type: jpeg image.jpeg (21.2 KB, 13 views)
__________________
"Manui dat cognitio vires - Knowledge gives strength to the arm"
"Better to know it but not need it than to need it and not know it!"
"Have more than thou showest, speak less than thou knowest."
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 25-11-21, 09:18 AM
leigh kitchen's Avatar
leigh kitchen leigh kitchen is online now
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 9,034
Default

Dr Who was it?
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 25-11-21, 09:49 AM
mike_vee's Avatar
mike_vee mike_vee is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Uxbridge
Posts: 4,892
Default

From the other thread :

Quote:
Originally Posted by mike_vee View Post
Telegraph has an article :

Fury as new Army regiment’s cap badge ‘identical’ to apartheid terror squad

Officers say design for Ranger Regiment cap matches that of the Selous Scouts, which fought black insurgent armies in former Rhodesia
.
__________________
British Legion/Royal British Legion , Poppy/Remembrance/Commemorative.

Poppy and British Legion Wanted
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 25-11-21, 10:03 AM
mike_vee's Avatar
mike_vee mike_vee is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Uxbridge
Posts: 4,892
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by grey_green_acorn View Post
Perhaps this earlier design was rejected?

Anyone remember it?

Tim
Unified Intelligence Taskforce – previously called the United Nations Intelligence Taskforce .

.
__________________
British Legion/Royal British Legion , Poppy/Remembrance/Commemorative.

Poppy and British Legion Wanted
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 25-11-21, 10:27 AM
grey_green_acorn's Avatar
grey_green_acorn grey_green_acorn is online now
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Kent, UK
Posts: 5,821
Default

Yes Dr Who and the UNIT was commanded by a Brigadier!

Tim
Attached Images
File Type: jpeg 9779B953-E9D0-4243-B320-043237696CC8.jpeg (21.2 KB, 4 views)
File Type: png 6C43B8BF-35CD-42DA-9968-0DB13C67783F.png (116.4 KB, 23 views)
__________________
"Manui dat cognitio vires - Knowledge gives strength to the arm"
"Better to know it but not need it than to need it and not know it!"
"Have more than thou showest, speak less than thou knowest."
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 25-11-21, 10:32 AM
lifeochil's Avatar
lifeochil lifeochil is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 238
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mike_vee View Post
From the other thread :



.
A lot of the article regarding the Selous Scouts is inaccurate and some are just lies but this is the media today.
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 25-11-21, 10:42 AM
lifeochil's Avatar
lifeochil lifeochil is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 238
Default

Ranger Regt.jpg
brave_Aduiv97zfc.jpg

From the Telegraph.

The Ministry of Defence (MoD) said that the badge for the Ranger Regiment, which was established as part of the Army’s Future Soldier concept, had taken its “inspiration and spirit” from the peregrine falcon.

The MoD added that the bird was “the most geographically dispersed bird of prey globally, operating in all environments including deserts, mountains and cities, and notably loyal to its partner”.

Everyone serving in the Ranger Regiment will wear a metal badge, irrespective of rank.

It will be made in a gunmetal grey colour that has been chosen for the Regimental beret and Stable Belt, taking inspiration from the peregrine falcon’s grey plumage.

The Selous Scouts’ metal badge was also designed on a bird of prey, the osprey, which was shown in an incoming strike pose with the banner beneath its claws.

Comparison with Selous Scouts ‘inaccurate’
The Ranger Regiment was born out of the Army’s pledge to turn infantry soldiers into elite fighters to tackle “high-threat” missions abroad.

It will be part of a Special Operations Brigade that will work in support of Special Forces in high-threat environments.

Over the next four years, a share of £120 million will be invested into the unit, which will undertake roles traditionally carried out by the Special Air Service and Special Boat Service, such as training, advising, enabling and accompanying partner forces from foreign countries.

An Army spokesman said: “The Ranger Regiment cap badge has been designed around the peregrine falcon. Any comparison or association to the osprey depicted in the Selous Scouts’ cap badge is completely inaccurate.

“The Ranger Regiment is very proud of its new cap-badge which takes inspiration and spirit from the peregrine falcon; fast, agile and fiercely loyal to its partner, it operates around the world in all environments including deserts, mountains and cities.”
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 25-11-21, 11:01 AM
Alan O's Avatar
Alan O Alan O is offline
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 12,730
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by lifeochil View Post
A lot of the article regarding the Selous Scouts is inaccurate and some are just lies but this is the media today.
For the Times Defence Correspondent to say that the Scouts were an apartheid terror squad shows a complete failure to understand the fact that Apartheid was in South Africa and Rhodesia was a country in it's own right with a Regular Army of its own! Such bad journalism.
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 25-11-21, 11:53 AM
mike_vee's Avatar
mike_vee mike_vee is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Uxbridge
Posts: 4,892
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan O View Post
For the Times Defence Correspondent to say that the Scouts were an apartheid terror squad shows a complete failure to understand the fact that Apartheid was in South Africa and Rhodesia was a country in it's own right with a Regular Army of its own! Such bad journalism.
Don't let the truth get in the way of a good story !

Next will be a social media campaign , a few "talking heads" on TV and eventually an apology for being "insensitive" and the badge will be cancelled.

.
__________________
British Legion/Royal British Legion , Poppy/Remembrance/Commemorative.

Poppy and British Legion Wanted
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 25-11-21, 12:17 PM
mike_vee's Avatar
mike_vee mike_vee is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Uxbridge
Posts: 4,892
Default

The Times and Telegraph were pretty tame compared to the Daily Mail !

Quote:
Officer fury over new Army regiment's 'racist' cap badge that is 'identical' to those worn by brutal apartheid terror squad who fought black insurgents and killed civilians in 1960s and 70s
.
__________________
British Legion/Royal British Legion , Poppy/Remembrance/Commemorative.

Poppy and British Legion Wanted
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 25-11-21, 01:06 PM
Royal Royal is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 324
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chacal View Post
This sounds like re-branding the Special Forces Support Group, or have I misunderstood the unit's role?

Graham
You have.

The Rangers take on (some - my emphasis) of the training of friendly foreign forces that was previously a role for the SAS, SBS and a few other specialist units.

The SFSG continues to provide direct support to the principal UKSF units.
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 25-11-21, 01:31 PM
crest-insignia's Avatar
crest-insignia crest-insignia is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: On a rock in the solent.
Posts: 555
Default

At this rate, we’ll have more ‘special’ forces than conventional ones.
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 25-11-21, 03:20 PM
David Tremain's Avatar
David Tremain David Tremain is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Ottawa, Canada
Posts: 1,903
Default

just saw this after I'd already posted. Oh well. I thought the Paras had a ranger function these days?

David
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 25-11-21, 03:23 PM
GriffMJ's Avatar
GriffMJ GriffMJ is offline
LYPAO Boff
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Caerlŷr, yn Lloegr.
Posts: 6,445
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by crest-insignia View Post
At this rate, we’ll have more ‘special’ forces than conventional ones.
.....not far from the truth.
__________________
Cofion gorau
Gruffydd M-J
www.paoyeomanry.org.uk

"A Yeoman from the Stalwart Rural Cavalry"
Lechyd da pob Cymro
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

mhs link

All times are GMT. The time now is 09:31 PM.


Powered by: vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.