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Arab?
Hi, I recently picked up a box of common South African badges, but this was also in the box. Can anybody tell me what they are, and if they are good or not? Some appear to be of poor quality manufacture. Regards Andrew
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Hello andrew,
I'm wondering if they aren't Iraqi. There are some similarities to the Iraqi flag and other Iraqi insignia I've seen. Don |
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They all appear to be Iraqi - very mixed bag!
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Thank you. Can anybody give more detail? Any good pieces here? Anybody collect Iraqi stuff?
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Found this Andrew, you'll find some of your items.
Jo http://www.tridentmilitary.com/World...qi-badges.html
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In picture 5,2nd from the right, Mother of Battles Medal,1990-1991 (Wissam 'Uum al-M'aarak,1990-1991).
Same picture,3rd from the right,Bravery Medal ( Nut al Shujat,given in three period,1958-1963,1979-1989 (Gulf War I) and 1990-1991 (Gulf War II). Same picture 4th from the right, the one with the crescent is the Wound Medal for the Iran-Iraq War,wrong ribbon, it should be a small red, large white, small red stripes, folded in the style of russian ribbons. This medal (wounded medal) is awarded to all military officers and commanders and those issuing orders wounded in battle whilst correctly carrying out their orders. In the centre a crescent and the letter “Jim” in Kufic script.With effect from 4/9/1980 If I find something else I'll let you know.I don't think there's any mistakes in the above. Jo
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"There truly exists but one perfect order: that of cemeteries. The dead never complain and they enjoy their equality in silence." - “There are things we know that we know,” “There are known unknowns. That is to say there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we do not know we don't know.” Donald Rumsfeld, before the Iraqi Invasion,2003. Age is something that doesn't matter, unless you are a cheese. Last edited by Voltigeur; 27-12-10 at 08:10 PM. |
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Found another one,in photo 5, last one on the right with the white ribbon and gold suspender is, the Supreme Worthiness Medal, 1992-1993 (Nut al-Istihqaq al-'Aali,1992-1993).
Jo (should have checked more closely, the medals are listed in the in my first answer......)
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"There truly exists but one perfect order: that of cemeteries. The dead never complain and they enjoy their equality in silence." - “There are things we know that we know,” “There are known unknowns. That is to say there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we do not know we don't know.” Donald Rumsfeld, before the Iraqi Invasion,2003. Age is something that doesn't matter, unless you are a cheese. Last edited by Voltigeur; 27-12-10 at 08:50 PM. |
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Thanks Jo, this is most helpful. This stuff must have been carried back by one of the many South Africans that were/are over there. Regards Andrew
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DEC 2010 C164.jpg
Hi Andrew, Confirmed, all the medals and insignia are Iraqi. Unfortunately, these are all very common and are typical of the "souvenier" items that are found for sale at all the international airports and markets that are frequented by foreignors. I am of the opinion that the Wound medal is a copy made and cast for sale to foreigners. The correct medals have two variations and the comment regarding the ribbon is correct. I have attached some photographs from my collection showing the correct medals with their ribbons. The bravery medal did come in 3 versions. The better quality ones are the earlier 2 patterns that were made before the Iraqi governemnt was subject to sanctions. The Iraq-Iran War version usually has an A for Alpha on the obverse. The later Iraqi made version has a plastic type ribbon as well. The earlier medal has a high relief and bears the Royal insignia on it. The three versions are also in the medal frame. Cloth insignia is readily available in Iraq, for example, the Iraqi Military Bomb Disposal proficiency badges were available for sale in the Baghdad market before we had even completed the training of the first course for the new Iraqi army! Regards, Will |
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Thanks William
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