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As I understand it the Footballers cap badge was commissioned by a dealer who is still with us. Very much within living memory and certainly not the 1920s.
I have never seen Middlesex Footballers cap badge, even a cobbled together one, with age or manufacture matching the 1920s. Certainly I’ve never seen a cap badge of the proportions shown in the catalogue. The proportions do however match the rare Footballers sweetheart badge sometimes encountered - https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/fo...light=football Ditto the Leinsters. You’ll notice the bottom scroll on the Leinster cap badge has the feather tips poking down, on the sweetheart shown and badge in the catalogue the scroll had a flat bottom edge. It’s possibly just coincidence. |
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Leigh, the poster shown in post 12 relates to sweetheart badge designs and not to cap badges.
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Full poster is shown here https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/fo...ad.php?t=74441
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It would make sense in terms of some of the fanciful designs, not that I've seen them as sweethearts. So, some fake cap badges such as the Middlesex Footballers have their origins in designs used for sweethearts? The chart may be just a form of general advertising and not showing examples of any sweetheart or other form of badge produced by or for or just sold by Meer & Jones. Last edited by leigh kitchen; 07-03-21 at 07:07 AM. |
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I was unaware that there was a sweetheart of that design. Last edited by leigh kitchen; 07-03-21 at 09:53 AM. |
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Interesting (but not the "Royal Middlesex" then).
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Artists licence
An interesting thread with references to the many variations on cap badges, Luke's picture of a CWG Leinster head stone is a good point in question, if CWG cannot get the correct pattern of a Regiments cap badge on a grave stone then is there little wonder that commemorative badges, sweetheart brooches and OCA buttonhole badges have variations.
Michael Moore's excellent book "Battalion at War/Singapore 1942" is in my opinion spoiled by the line drawing on the front cover dust jacket of the Cambridgeshire cap badge with the word "REGIMENT" spelled out in full on the scroll, surely the correct pattern of badge could have been found, even the variety with the missing "E". I am surprised that the fakers have not produced a badge of this design, they have managed to add a small insignificant little "South Africa 1900-02" to a standard cap badge which are currently doing the rounds at various "specialist" salerooms. Rob |
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No, not the "Royal Middlesex".
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A new abbreviation to replace the well-worn "LOL"...."LOB" (see above for translation....)
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Hi
A post not related to cap badges but medals to the Middlesex Footballers. I possess a single Victory medal to a member of this Battalion. A member of 17th Btn, he was killed 8/8/16. Probably time to move if on so anyone seriously keen can PM me for details. |
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From "Crown Imperial" issue 73, Winter 1993.
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Despite saying the badges are reduced in size it is well known that some of the fantasy Footballer Battalion cap badges (and fake PWPBs) are marked Firmin and ‘silver’ on the reverse.
I’ve never seen a Firmin Footballers Bn sweetheart badge. Also as shown in post #17 an example of the cap badge sized fantasy Footballers badge with an erased battle honour scroll. Again, I’ve never seen a sweetheart without the battle honour either. So I strongly suspect all 3 badges were cap badges. As mentioned before these were made within living memory for a dealer who is still with us. I don’t have an exact date but doubt it could have been very long (if at all) before the 1990s. And this gentleman just so happened to have 3 (each a different variation) with seemingly no information on them in 1993… a very unfortunate collector. |
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