British & Commonwealth Military Badge Forum

Recent Books by Forum Members

   

Go Back   British & Commonwealth Military Badge Forum > British Military Insignia > Royal Navy and Royal Marines

 Other Pages: Galleries, Links etc.
Glossary  Books by Forum Members     Canadian Pre 1914    CEF    CEF Badge Inscriptions   Canadian post 1920     Canadian post 1953     British Cavalry Badges     Makers' Marks    Pipers' Badges  Canadian Cloth Titles  Books  SEARCH
 
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 25-01-19, 04:21 PM
Alex Rice Alex Rice is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 4,736
Default RNAS badge

Well, this is pretty disgusting...maybe it wouldn't fool an experienced collector but...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/132929065711?ul_noapp=true
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 25-01-19, 08:55 PM
Frank Kelley's Avatar
Frank Kelley Frank Kelley is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 7,562
Default

Quite frankly, I think very few people would be fooled by those, even if, they are subsequently sold on as "original" by idiots.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex Rice View Post
Well, this is pretty disgusting...maybe it wouldn't fool an experienced collector but...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/132929065711?ul_noapp=true
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 26-01-19, 07:48 AM
engr9266's Avatar
engr9266 engr9266 is online now
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Costa Del BOGNOR REGIS by the Sea UK
Posts: 3,846
Default

It does state on the listing - “The reproduction NEW badge is in brand new condition. The reproduction Aged badge is made to look etc”
But as you say someone at some time may offer this as an original.
__________________

JERRY
ROYAL ENGINEERS/BRITISH ARMY CORPS & SERVICES/BRITISH LEGION/ROYAL BRITISH LEGION (see albums)
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 23-06-19, 03:01 PM
royston royston is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Cotswolds
Posts: 409
Default RNAS & RN Cap Badges

Just spotted this one. Note all badges before 1922 showed a red "gem" to the centre of the crown. Also note what looks like a Petty Officer's badge, but with a red "Gem" in the centre is a Chief Petty Officer's badge. Up until 1922 Petty Officers wore bell bottoms and a "pork pie hat.


John
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 24-06-19, 07:15 AM
Alex Rice Alex Rice is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 4,736
Default

Hi John
Yes, prior to 1922, Chief Petty Officer's wore what is now a PO's badge, with the red jewel. That is when the wreath was added to the badge for CPO's.
Cheers,
Alex
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 24-06-19, 07:41 PM
royston royston is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Cotswolds
Posts: 409
Default

Further to the last. The badge currently listed on ebay and attached to a hat appears to have a blue jewel instead of red in the centre and is therefore not a genuine RNAS cap badge.http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/WW1-Royal-...30ea%7Ciid%3A1
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 24-06-19, 08:37 PM
manchesters's Avatar
manchesters manchesters is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Lancashire
Posts: 7,572
Default

Correct.
The badge is not even in one piece, the crown has been added on, you can see how it overlaps the wreath.
Shocking.

regards
__________________
Simon Butterworth

Manchester Regiment Collector
Rank, Prize & Trade Badges
British & Commonwealth Artillery Badges
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 25-06-19, 10:27 AM
Frank Kelley's Avatar
Frank Kelley Frank Kelley is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 7,562
Default

It appears to be of very recent manufacture and completely spurious.
Interestingly, there is another on offer for twenty quid more!

Quote:
Originally Posted by royston View Post
Further to the last. The badge currently listed on ebay and attached to a hat appears to have a blue jewel instead of red in the centre and is therefore not a genuine RNAS cap badge.http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/WW1-Royal-...30ea%7Ciid%3A1

Last edited by Frank Kelley; 25-06-19 at 10:33 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 25-06-19, 12:50 PM
royston royston is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Cotswolds
Posts: 409
Default

I have emailed the seller of the cap plus badge to say it is not genuine. The reply is as follows:


Thanks for your message...

Your concise language got straight to the meat and bone of the matter without fluffing up the message with banal politeness - well done.

We will make a note of this for our manager to check up on when he gets back from holiday - we get lots of messages on all manner of different antiques (we stock 10s of 1000s of items) and doing research, getting verification, updating the listings etc are all very important to us, so we will investigate as you advised so generously. We do have to maintain our quality service with clients that come into our "bricks and mortar shop" however, as well as maintain our excellent ratings on eBay and other antique shopping portals - so do expect a delay before any update occurs. Rest knowing that we endeavour to be as accurate as possible when writing our listings - a company is not able to build a good reputation that spans over two decades by trying to pull fast ones on the customer.

Thanks again then, have a jolly day,

Spencer - writing on behalf of the Antiques Storehouse

Last edited by royston; 25-06-19 at 12:56 PM. Reason: additional info
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 25-06-19, 04:40 PM
Frank Kelley's Avatar
Frank Kelley Frank Kelley is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 7,562
Default

Perhaps best not to hold your own breath.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

mhs link

All times are GMT. The time now is 10:58 PM.


Powered by: vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.