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Boer War, but what unit?
Hi all
I've had this badge for some years now and would love to work out which unit it might be for. My reason for suggesting that it is Boer War is because the brass loops are identical to another badge I have that is definitely from this period. I looked at list of irregular units in L.L. Gordon's British Battles & Medals and got completely lost in the number of outfits. Two likely contenders are: Cameron's Scouts & Clifford's Scouts but there are no doubt others that I've missed! Or is it "S C"??? Ideas? Oh, and it's about 22mm from top to bottom. |
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Must be incredibly rare as no one appears to have seen it before...
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Roy is the man to ask about these Boer War raised units. I understand that he has quite a collection of them.
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Maybe the Sailors Company which was one of the Cape Peninsula Town Guard Formations.
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Many thanks gents! It has languished unloved in a box for some time and it was only when I looked at the way it was made (hand cut, ring loops) that I felt if must be from the period.
Roy, if you are reading this I would love to have your input! Sailor's Company? How too wonderful for words! |
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Dum Dum......
My Holy Grail It is just like a badge that I have been searching for over the last 30 years..... The only thing is it's toooooo small..... The badge I am looking for is 2 inches tall by 1 1/4 inch wide in size...... "C" over the letter "S"..... Privately made in Australia...... I have a photo but cannot find it right now.... Have not mentioned the name of the unit on purpose until I can confirm..... Mike
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Calgary Military Historical Society OMRS 1591 Boer War Badges Want's anything named Clare or Cherer Last edited by QSAMIKE; 11-02-22 at 12:26 AM. |
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That's the one I am looking for and now I don't have to look for the photo......
The CS badge was made in Australia by the members of the unit after the war was over according to the Regimental History..... The CANADIAN SCOUT badge was worn and theater made..... In White Metal and Brass..... I have the records for all the members...... Mike
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Never heard of the Canadian Scouts before.I understand that Australians served in quite a few of the small irregular Boer War units. The Australian War Memorial has a picture of an Australian member of Lumsden's Horse complete with his original hat and shoulder title.
Has anyone ever seen a list of British or other regiments which included a substantial number of Australians? |
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The Canadian Scouts were raised in the Transvaal upon the 18th of January 1901 for general service in South Africa, in common with a number of other SAMIF formations, they were disbanded in Pretoria on the 30th of June 1902.
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Thanks to all who have contributed to this post. It's great to finally be able to identify something you've had for such a long time.
Wondering where it might have been acquired from, I can only guess that it was a local antique shop that often had interesting bits for sale. As to why I bought it....I've no idea! |
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Here are some photos of the Canadian Scouts badge made in Australia..... The uniform has the Canadian Maple Leaf badge the same as worn by RCR in South Africa.....
Also here is the type of information that I have..... TROOPER T. OGDEN NAME: OGDEN, Thomas RANK: Trooper Regt. Number 36865 / 195 DOB/POB: None Shown AGE ON ENLISTMENT: 23 OCCUPATION: Carpenter RELIGION: Church of England MARITAL STATUS: Single C.S. ENLISTMENT DATE: 28/09/1901 – Cape Town C.S. RELEASE DATE: 09/04/1902 (Time Expired) CHARACTER: Very Good FORMER SERVICE: Scott's Railway Guards (No. 446) 12/03/01 Transport Corps (Stockrider) Stockriders Corps SUBSEQUENT SERVICE: None Shown MEDALS: Q.S.A. - Cape Colony, Orange Free State, Transvaal, South Africa 1901, South Africa 1902 NOTES/REMARKS: None NEXT-OF-KIN: Gisborne, New Zealand REFERENCES: TNA, WO 126/129, Local Armed Forces Enrolment Forms – Scott's Railway Guards TNA, WO 127/4 Local Armed Forces Nominal Rolls – Canadian Scouts, p76 & p194a TNA, WO 126/17, Local Armed Forces Enrolment Forms – Canadian Scouts TNA, WO 100/287, Canadian Scouts Medal Roll, p308, p339 SERGEANT DAYTON BROWN HAMMOND NAME: HAMMOND, Dayton Brown REGIMENTAL NO.: 129 RANK: Sergeant DOB/POB: Owen Sound, Ontario AGE ON ENLISTMENT: 23 OCCUPATION: Farmer RELIGION: Church of England MARITAL STATUS: Single C.S. ENLISTMENT DATE: 01/12/1900 PROMOTED: C.S. RELEASE DATE: 28/01/1901 (Killed in Action @ Erestefabrieken [Vlak Kraal]) FORMER SERVICE: “C” Battery, Royal Canadian Field Artillery, 02/01/1900 – 30/11/1900 SUBSEQUENT SERVICE: Nil MEDALS: Q.S.A. - Cape Colony, Rhodesia, Transvaal NOTES/REMARKS: Original Member Killed in Action at Vlak Kraal, January 27th 1901. “There is one part of it which I think the hardest to bear and that is that he was killed by the British by a mistaken order, this we learned from a comrade who was on the field at the time.” Mr. Brown (father) in letter to Col. W.D. Otter NEXT-OF-KIN: Father – Robert Hammond – Owen Sound REFERENCES: LAC, RG 9, Militia and Defence, Series 11-A-5, Vol. 14, Reel C 1863 – Medal Registers LAC, RG 24, National Defence Series 11-A-1, Vol. 340, Docket 20142, Canadian Scouts Nominal Roll p.2 LAC, RG 38, Veterans Affairs, Series A-1-a, VOL. 43, Reel T-2072 – Service Documents LAC, RG 38, Veterans Affairs, VOL. 131, South African Volunteer Land Grant Application, Number 6210 TNA, WO 127/4 Local Armed Forces Nominal Rolls – Canadian Scouts, p40 TNA, WO 100/287, Canadian Scouts Medal Roll, p295, p328 South Africa Field Force Casualty List, January 1, 1901 to June 30, 1901, p.96 Mike
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Calgary Military Historical Society OMRS 1591 Boer War Badges Want's anything named Clare or Cherer Last edited by QSAMIKE; 14-02-22 at 03:15 PM. |
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