British & Commonwealth Military Badge Forum

Recent Books by Forum Members

   

Go Back   British & Commonwealth Military Badge Forum > South African Military and Police Insignia > General Topics

 Other Pages: Galleries, Links etc.
Glossary  Books by Forum Members     Canadian Pre 1914    CEF    CEF Badge Inscriptions   Canadian post 1920     Canadian post 1953     British Cavalry Badges     Makers' Marks    Pipers' Badges  Canadian Cloth Titles  Books  SEARCH
 
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 21-06-13, 12:04 PM
iaindh's Avatar
iaindh iaindh is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Johannesburg, South Africa
Posts: 1,223
Default "The old and the bold"

I'm currently reading the book, "They fought for King and Kaiser, South Africans in German East Africa 1916" by James Ambrose Brown and came across the following passage that made me chuckle:

"Indeed, never before in the history of that vast territory had such armies been ranged against each other. Tribal warriors of East Africa, now fully trained and masters of the bush, German machine gunners and artillerymen and the most polyglot mixture of British Imperial troops ever assembled on one battlefield. Stocky Lancashiremen of speech all but unintelligible to the settler soldiers of the 2nd Rhodesians; Baluchis from the North West frontier, long enemies of the British; King's African Riflemen from subjugated Kenyan tribes; fighters from the mystic hills of Kashmir - Punjabis who had fought with fanatical courage in the Indian Mutiny; Royal Fusiliers with their mixed bag of scoundrels, remittance men, alcoholics and heroes and adventurers."

He meant of course the 25th (Frontiersmen) Royal Fusiliers (City of London Regiment) amongst whom was the great Frederick Selous.

Incidentally I didnt know whether to post this in the British section but with it's dealing with South Africans specifically, so I thought I'd post it here.

I am enjoying the book; great reading and it seems to me few people know of the campaign in GEA.

Iain
__________________
C'est magnifique, mais ce n'est pas la guerre
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 21-06-13, 01:29 PM
Madziro Madziro is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Basingstoke UK
Posts: 529
Default

It is a fascinating campaign. Another good reference book is the official government one called The South Africans with General Smuts in German East Africa1916 printed by the government printer in 1939.

Attached some of the metal shoulder titles / collars worn as the only regimental distinction by the Indian regiments deployed there, that have come my way, for interest!
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 3rd Gwalior Infantry.jpg (63.3 KB, 6 views)
File Type: jpg 5th Mahratta Light Infantry title.jpg (15.4 KB, 4 views)
File Type: jpg 5th Mahratta Light Infantry.jpg (42.7 KB, 3 views)
File Type: jpg 12 FFR.jpg (43.0 KB, 6 views)
File Type: jpg 15th Punjabis.jpg (42.0 KB, 5 views)
File Type: jpg 40th Pathans.jpg (44.3 KB, 4 views)
File Type: jpg 57th Wildes Rifles.jpg (17.0 KB, 5 views)
File Type: jpg 61st Pioneers.jpg (32.0 KB, 2 views)
File Type: jpg 63rd PLI.jpg (24.4 KB, 2 views)
File Type: jpg 81st Pioneers.jpg (41.0 KB, 3 views)
File Type: jpg 127th Baluchis.jpg (56.4 KB, 2 views)
File Type: jpg 129th Baluchis.jpg (51.3 KB, 1 views)
File Type: jpg 130th Baluchis.jpg (47.3 KB, 1 views)
File Type: jpg Bharatpur.jpg (26.4 KB, 1 views)
File Type: jpg Bhurtpur.jpg (28.8 KB, 1 views)
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 21-06-13, 01:35 PM
Madziro Madziro is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Basingstoke UK
Posts: 529
Default

Helmet badge of the 2nd Rhodesia Regt in GEA. There are a few variants as many were hand made from sheet brass.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 2RR Helmet badge WW1.jpg (49.8 KB, 5 views)
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 21-06-13, 04:47 PM
iaindh's Avatar
iaindh iaindh is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Johannesburg, South Africa
Posts: 1,223
Default

Hi Dudley,

you are lucky to have such an interesting collection of badges from the GEA campaign and thanks for posting and sharing them.

regards, Iain
__________________
C'est magnifique, mais ce n'est pas la guerre
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 21-06-13, 05:50 PM
Brian Conyngham's Avatar
Brian Conyngham Brian Conyngham is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Durban South Africa
Posts: 1,238
Default

Dudley and Iain

I have always been interested in the GEA campaign, possibly as my grandfather fought in it. The official history as mentioned by Dudley is great except very tedious reading as the author jumps backwards and forwards in time....I am trying to get through a copy myself, summarizing as I go along!

Many of the unit diaries are available at Kew.

There are a number of works on this campaign all interesting.

Brian
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 21-06-13, 07:57 PM
Madziro Madziro is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Basingstoke UK
Posts: 529
Default

Gents, thanks for the kind words. The campaign is fascinating for me, hence the interest. I had the opportunity of visiting Tanzania while still serving with the SANDF and got to see the areas around Kilimanjaro, Arusha and also Dar es Salaam. There is a statue of a German askari in central Dar es Salaam to this day. Here are some more titles from that campaign.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 1 ZA Ruiters.jpg (39.8 KB, 1 views)
File Type: jpg 2 ZA Ruiters variant.jpg (44.6 KB, 1 views)
File Type: jpg 2 ZA Ruiters.jpg (55.5 KB, 1 views)
File Type: jpg 3 ZA Ruiters.jpg (46.6 KB, 1 views)
File Type: jpg 4 SA Horse title.jpg (56.5 KB, 1 views)
File Type: jpg 5 ZA Ruiters.jpg (47.8 KB, 1 views)
File Type: jpg 6 ZA Ruiters variant.jpg (62.6 KB, 1 views)
File Type: jpg 6 ZA Ruiters.jpg (46.0 KB, 1 views)
File Type: jpg 7 ZA Ruiters.jpg (46.6 KB, 1 views)
File Type: jpg 8 SA Horse title.jpg (40.5 KB, 2 views)
File Type: jpg 9 ZA Ruiters.jpg (53.5 KB, 2 views)
File Type: jpg 10 SA Horse title.jpg (51.5 KB, 1 views)
File Type: jpg SA Horse title.jpg (37.8 KB, 1 views)
File Type: jpg SA Veterinary Corps title.jpg (41.1 KB, 1 views)
File Type: jpg SA Motor Cycle Corps title.jpg (38.5 KB, 1 views)

Last edited by Madziro; 26-06-13 at 09:51 AM.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

mhs link

All times are GMT. The time now is 06:43 PM.


Powered by: vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.