SS Victorian Cap Badge?

[capbadge]

Hello,

I purchased this from a lot a few years back, never really figured out what it was-I know its a Victorian crown- perhaps a Victorian Steam ship (hence SS) Badge?

If anyone could help me indentify it or show me a reference source I would be grateful. I do not collect Victorian items and could maybe use it for trade if it is rare.

Regards

Stu

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stuart.russell@uleth.ca

[dragonz18]

Stu,
I think that 'SS' on a british badge would stand for 'Sharp Shooters'.
A good pic of the back would be a help here, also. ??
Cheers !
Steve

[Viletone]

Originally Posted by capbadge

Hello,

I purchased this from a lot a few years back, never really figured out what it was-I know its a Victorian crown- perhaps a Victorian Steam ship (hence SS) Badge?

If anyone could help me indentify it or show me a reference source I would be grateful. I do not collect Victorian items and could maybe use it for trade if it is rare.

Regards

Stu

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stuart.russell@uleth.ca

I'm pretty certain Steve is correct, although I can't find a reference I know I've seen one somewhere and it's probably a Boer War slouch hat badge.

It's extremely rare and might be worth contacting Bosleys for a valuation.

[Viletone]

Originally Posted by Viletone

I'm pretty certain Steve is correct, although I can't find a reference I know I've seen one somewhere and it's probably a Boer War slouch hat badge.

It's extremely rare and might be worth contacting Bosleys for a valuation.

Found it! Bosleys postal auction 22nd April 2009 Lot No.108 Estimate £200-£250.

Anyone know the closing price?

Definently a Sharp Shooters Imperial Yeomanry slouch hat badge.

[Malcolm Davey]

Closing price was £413


Malc

[capbadge]

uhh wow guys thanks for replying so quick!! Does anyone have the link for the auction site? 400 pounds is pretty darn steep- once again wow

[Alex Rice]

Hi
Just for some more info, it's in Kipling & King vol 1, no 1401, and was the
18th Battalion. It was worn on a red & blue rosette.
Cheers,
Alex

[cavalryman]

hi, this badge was also worn by the 2nd & 3rd sharpshooter battalions (21st bn IY) & (23RD bn IY) between 1900-1902. regards john

[QSAMIKE]

Part One..........

Please look at the Highlighted Units......

1st Battalion.

1st (Wiltshire) Company, raised 1900
2nd (Wiltshire) Company, raised 1900
3rd (Gloucestershire) Company, raised 1900
4th (Glamorganshire) Company, raised 1900; perpetuated Aug 1901by Glamorganshire Imperial Yeomanry
63rd (Wiltshire) Company, transferred 1902 from 16th Battalion

2nd Battalion

5th (Warwickshire) Company, raised 1900
21st (Cheshire) Company, raised 1900
22nd (Cheshire) Company, raised 1900
32nd (Lancashire) Company, raised 1900; co-sponsored by Duke of Lancaster's Own Yeomanry Cavalry, and Lancashire Hussars
103rd (Warwickshire) Company, raised 1901
110th (Northumberland) Company, raised 1901

3rd Battalion

9th (Yorkshire (Doncaster)) Company, raised 1900; sponsored by Yorkshire Hussars.
10th (Sherwood Rangers) Company, raised 1900
11th (Yorkshire) Company, raised 1900; sponsored by Queen's Own Yorkshire Dragoons
12th (South Nottingham) Company, raised 1900
66th (Yorkshire) Company, transferred 1902 from 16th Battalion
109th (Yorkshire Hussars) Company, raised 1901
111th (Yorkshire Dragoons) Company, raised 1901

4th Battalion

6th (Staffordshire) Company, raised 1900
7th (Leicestershire) Company, raised 1900
8th (Derbyshire) Company, raised 1900
28th (Bedfordshire) Company, raised 1900; also known as Compton's Horse; perpetuated 19 Sept 1901 by Bedfordshire Imperial Yeomanry
41st (Hampshire) Company, transferred 1902 from 12th Battalion
104th (Derbyshire) Company, raised 1901
106th (Staffordshire) Company, raised 1901

5th Battalion

13th (Shropshire) Company, raised 1900
14th (Northumberland) Company, raised 1900
15th (Northumberland) Company, raised 1900
16th (Worcestershire) Company, raised 1900
55th (Northumberland) Company, transferred 1902 from 14th Battalion
100th (Northumberland) Company, raised 1901
101st (Northumberland) Company, raised 1901
102nd (Worcestershire) Company, raised 1901

6th (Scottish) Battalion

17th (Ayrshire and Lanarkshire) Company, raised 1900; co-sponsored by Ayrshire Yeomanry Cavalry, and Lanarkshire Yeomanry Cavalry
18th (Queen's Own Royal Glasgow and Lower Ward of Lanark) Company, raised 1900
19th (Lothians and Berwickshire) Company, raised 1900
20th (Fife and Forfar Light Horse) Company, raised 1900; co-sponsored by 1st Fifeshire Light Horse Volunteers, and 1st Forfarshire Light Horse Volunteers
107th (Lanarkshire) Company, raised 1901
108th (Royal Glasgow) Company, raised 1901

7th Battalion

25th (West Somerset) Company, raised 1900
26th (Dorsetshire) Company, raised 1900
27th (Devonshire) Company, raised 1900; co-sponsored by Royal 1st Devonshire Yeomanry Cavalry, and Royal North Devonshire Hussars.
48th (North Somerset) Company, raised 1900
69th (Sussex) Company, transferred 1902 from 14th Battalion

8th Battalion

23rd (Lancashire) Company, raised 1900; co-sponsored by Duke of Lancaster's Own Yeomanry Cavalry, and Lancashire Hussars.
24th (Westmorland and Cumberland) Company, raised 1900
74th (Dublin) Company, transferred 1902 from 16th Battalion
77th (Manchester) Company, raised 1900, sponsored by Lancashire Hussars; disbanded 1900
99th (Irish) Company.
105th (Manchester) Company, raised 1901

9th Battalion. Formed 1900 in Wales.

29th (Denbighshire) Company, raised 1900
30th (Pembrokeshire) Company, raised 1900
31st (Montgomeryshire) Company, raised 1900; re-formed 1901 in Second Contingent.
36th (West Kent) Company, raised 1900
49th (Montgomeryshire) Company, raised 1900; re-formed 1901 in Second Contingent.
88th (Welsh Yeomanry) Company, raised 1901 in Second Contingent; sponsored by Montgomeryshire Yeomanry Cavalry
89th (Montgomeryshire) Company, raised 1901 in Second Contingent

10th Battalion

37th (Buckinghamshire) Company, raised 1900
38th (High Wycombe) Company, raised 1900
39th (Berkshire) Company, raised 1900
40th (Oxfordshire) Company, raised 1900

11th Battalion

33rd (Royal East Kent) Company, raised 1900
34th (Middlesex) Company, raised 1900
35th (Middlesex) Company, raised 1900
53rd (Royal East Kent) Company, transferred 1902 from 14th Battalion
62nd (Middlesex) Company, transferred 1902 from 14th Battalion
112th (Middlesex) Company, raised 1901

12th Battalion

41st (Hampshire) Company, raised 1900; transferred 1902 to 4th Battalion
42nd (Hertfordshire) Company, raised 1900
43rd (Suffolk) Company, raised 1900
44th (Suffolk) Company, raised 1900
46th (Belfast) Company, transferred 1902 from 13th Battalion
51st (Paget's Horse) Company, transferred 1902 from 19th Battalion
53rd (Royal East Kent) Company, transferred 1902 from 14th Battalion
73rd (Paget's Horse) Company, transferred 1902 from 19th Battalion

13th Battalion

45th (Dublin) Company, raised 1900
46th (Belfast) Company, raised 1900; transferred 1902 to 12th Battalion
47th (Duke of Cambridge's Own, or Lord Doughmore's) Company, raised 1900
54th (Belfast) Company, raised 1900

14th Battalion

53rd (Royal East Kent) Company, raised 1900; transferred 1902 to 11th Battalion
55th (Northumberland) Company, raised 1900; transferred 1902 to 5th Battalion
62nd (Middlesex) Company, raised 1900; transferred 1902 to 11th Battalion
69th (Sussex) Company, raised 1900; transferred 1902 to 7th Battalion

15th Battalion

56th (Buckinghamshire) Company, raised 1900
57th (Buckinghamshire) Company, raised 1900
58th (Berkshire) Company, raised 1900
59th (Oxfordshire) Company, raised 1900

16th Battalion

63rd (Wiltshire) Company, raised Mar. 1900; transferred 1902 to 1st Battalion
66th (Yorkshire) Company, raised 1900; co- sponsored by Yorkshire Hussars, and Queen's Own Yorkshire Dragoons; transferred 1902 to 3rd Battalion
74th (Dublin) Company, raised 1900; transferred 1902 to 8th Battalion

17th Battalion

50th (Hampshire) Company, raised 1900
60th (North Irish Horse (Belfast)) Company, raised 7 Mar 1900 at Belfast; perpetuated 7 Jan. 1902 by North of Ireland Imperial Yeomanry
61st (South Irish Horse (Dublin)) Company, raised 7 Mar 1900 at Dublin; perpetuated 7 Jan. 1902 by South of Ireland Imperial Yeomanry
65th (Leicestershire) Company, raised 1900

18th Battalion (Sharpshooters). raised 30 Dec. 1899; embarked at Southampton 6 Apr 1900; landed at Beira Apr. 1900 (joined Rhodesian Field Force); First contingent returned to UK Jun 1901, replaced by second draft Mar-Aug 1901; perpetuated Aug 1901 by 3rd County of London (Sharpshooters) Imperial Yeomanry.

67th (Sharpshooters) Company, raised 1900
70th (Sharpshooters) Company, raised 1900
71st (Sharpshooters) Company, raised 1900
75th (Sharpshooters) Company, raised 1900

19th Battalion (Paget's Horse)

51st (Paget's Horse) Company, raised 1900; transferred 1902 to 12th Battalion
52nd (Paget's Horse) Company, raised 1900
68th (Paget's Horse) Company, raised 1900
73rd (Paget's Horse) Company, raised 1900; transferred 1902 to 12th Battalion

20th Battalion (Rough Riders). raised 17 Mar. 1900 in London; disbanded July 1901; perpetuated 23 July 1901 by City of London Imperial Yeomanry (Rough Riders).

72nd (Rough Riders) Company, raised 1900; disbanded 1900
76th (Rough Riders) Company, raised 1900; transferred 1902 to 22nd Battalion
78th (Rough Riders) Company, raised 1900; transferred 1902 to 22nd Battalion
79th (Rough Riders) Company, raised 1900; disbanded 1900

21st Battalion (2nd Sharpshooters), raised Jan. 1901; embarked for South Africa Mar. 1901; perpetuated Aug. 1901 by 3rd County of London (Sharpshooters) Imperial Yeomanry.

80th (Sharpshooters) Company, raised 1901
81st (Sharpshooters) Company, raised 1901
82nd (Sharpshooters) Company, raised 1901
83rd (Sharpshooters) Company, raised 1901

22nd Battalion (Rough Riders), raised 27 Mar. 1901 in London for Second Contingent; disbanded 1902 and perpetuated 23 July 1901 by City of London Imperial Yeomanry (Rough Riders).

76th (Rough Riders) Company, transferred 1902 from 20th Battalion
78th (Rough Riders) Company, transferred 1902 from 20th Battalion
84th (Rough Riders) Company, raised 1901
85th (Rough Riders) Company, raised 1901
86th (Rough Riders) Company, raised 1901
87th (Rough Riders) Company, raised 1901

23rd Battalion (3rd Sharpshooters). raised Jan. 1901; embarked for South Africa Mar. 1901; perpetuated Aug. 1901 by 3rd County of London (Sharpshooters) Imperial Yeomanry.

90th (Sharpshooters) Company, raised 1901
91st (Sharpshooters) Company, raised 1901
92nd (Sharpshooters) Company, raised 1901
93rd (Sharpshooters) Company, raised 1901

24th Battalion (Metropolitan Mounted Rifles), raised 30 Mar. 1901 in London; perpetuated 24 Aug. 1901 by 2nd County of London Imperial Yeomanry.

94th (Metropolitan Mounted Rifles) Company, raised 1901
95th (Metropolitan Mounted Rifles) Company, raised 1901
96th (Metropolitan Mounted Rifles) Company, raised 1901
97th (Metropolitan Mounted Rifles) Company, raised 1901

25th Battalion (Sharpshooters), raised 1901

115th (Sharpshooters) Company, raised 1901
116th Company, raised 1901
117th (Sharpshooters) Company, raised 1901
118th (Sharpshooters) Company, raised 1901

26th Battalion (Younghusband's Horse), raised 1901

119th Company
120th (Younghusband's Horse) Company
121st Company
122nd Company

27th Battalion, raised 1901

123rd Company
124th Company
125th Company
126th Company

[QSAMIKE]

Part Two......

28th Battalion (Westminster Dragoons), raised 1901

127th (Westminster Dragoons) Company
128th (Westminster Dragoons) Company
129th (Westminster Dragoons) Company
130th (Westminster Dragoons) Company

29th Battalion (Irish Horse), raised 1901

131st (Irish Horse) Company
132nd (Irish Horse) Company
133rd (Irish Horse) Company
134th (Irish Horse) Company
175th (Irish Horse) Company
176th (Irish Horse) Company

30th Battalion, raised 1901

135th Company
136th Company
137th Company
138th Company

31st Battalion (Fincastle's Horse), raised 1901

139th (Fincastle's Horse) Company
140th (Fincastle's Horse) Company
141st (Fincastle's Horse) Company
142nd (Fincastle's Horse) Company
177th (Fincastle's Horse) Company

32nd Battalion, raised 1901

143rd Company
144th Company
145th Company
146th Company

33rd Battalion, raised 1901

147th Company
148th Company
149th Company
150th Company

34th Battalion, raised 1901

151st Company
152nd Company
153rd Company
154th Company

35th Battalion, raised 1901

155th Company
156th Company
157th Company
158th Company

36th Battalion, raised 1901

159th Company
160th Company
161st Company
162nd Company

37th Battalion, raised 1901

163rd Company
164th Company
165th Company
166th Company

38th Battalion, raised 1901

167th Company
168th Company
169th Company
170th Company

39th Battalion, raised 1901

171st Company
172nd Company
173rd Company
174th Company

13th (Lovat's Scouts) Company [independent], raised Feb. 1900 at Inverness as Lovat's Scouts. Formed 113th Coy in Second Contingent. Disbanded Aug. 1902 at Beaufort.

114th (Lovat's Scouts) Company [independent], raised Feb. 1900 at Inverness as Lovat's Scouts. Formed 114th Coy in Second Contingent. Disbanded Aug. 1902 at Beaufort.

178th (Lovat's Scouts) Company.





Mike

[capbadge]

Hey Mike thanks for the info... I see you are in Calgary, I live down by Lethbridge so if your around gimmie a shout. I sent you a PM.

Cheers

[QSAMIKE]

Hello Stu.....

Here is a home made badge that came with a medal to the 70th (Sharpshooters) Company, along with a picture and his papers.....

Mike

[capbadge]

Hey Mike,

Just saw your badge and sent you a PM, neat!


-Stu

[Grevisk]

Originally Posted by QSAMIKE

17th Battalion

60th (North Irish Horse (Belfast)) Company, raised 7 Mar 1900 at Belfast; perpetuated 7 Jan. 1902 by North of Ireland Imperial Yeomanry
61st (South Irish Horse (Dublin)) Company, raised 7 Mar 1900 at Dublin; perpetuated 7 Jan. 1902 by South of Ireland Imperial Yeomanry

Hi Mike,
Just one niggle with the very comprehensive list, there is no 'Horse' in the titles of the 60th and 61st Companies, being correctly designated North Irish and South Irish respectively.
This error has even crept into the latest issue of British Battles and Medals, having previously been correct in the 4th edition.

[QSAMIKE]

Thanks Doug.....

I will make the changes in my own personal list.....

Mike