Another few in doubt

[stef]

I've gone threw another frame with badges, part of an older collection I recently bought. These badges have me in doubt:

17th lancer motto, read so many topics on these I have no clue anymore
4th/7th Dragoon guards, quality is good but it is with lugs?
14th/20th Hussars Queens crown collar badge?
15th kings Hussars, fake due to lack of detail (lion head and back leg)?
15th/19th Hussars, nice details but with lugs?
3rd dragoon guards, no brazing hole
10th royal Hussars, nice polishing, large brazing hole but broken slider

[stef]

Photos have turned while uploading it seems I will try to fix this

[Alan O]

Can take them individually of the backs?

[stef]

Here they are.

Unfortunately the image keep turning 90°, I tried turning the images and upload again but it does not work.

[Alan O]

Well the 3rd DG is a fake for sure. The 4/7th I would be doubtful of as it's on lugs.

The 14th/20th is indeed a collar. Likely to be an officer's one.

[stef]

Thanks Alan, hopefully someone else can give a definitive answer on the 4th/7th and the others.

I am leaning towards the 10th being original?

[Alan O]

Yes it is an early one.

[billy]

4th/7th could be a collar if made in Bronze, was thinking 17th/21st was O/K till I saw the rear slider and all its motelling? Griff can answer for sure, 15th/19th would expect it slidered but wouldn't write it off just yet, good luck billy