Rising Sun and shoulder badge WW1 or WW2?

[Brodie_MK1]

A thing what is puzzeling me for some time is there a way to see if Australian badge's (Rising Sun and shoulder badge) are from WW1 or WW2 period?

I have some badges some are with the maker stampt on it others not can someone help me out here

The small rising sun badge left under is 100% original because that one i found in the fields of Pozieres in the 80ties.

[Brodie_MK1]

[Jibba Jabba]

Nice General Service Pattern badges. Ive got a soft spot for these. I cannot walk past a dealers stall and leave an example for a fiver. I must of bought the same design five or six times over because I forgot which ones I had at home.

Your Tiptaft badge is most certainly WW1 period manufactued in Birmingham England.

Here are a few tips from Australian collectors:

1. WW1 badges are brass in colour and WW2 copper in colouration.

2. One is able to date the shoulder titles by the positioning of the lugs. WW2 shoulder titles have the lugs positioned on the end of the title, WW1 titles have their lugs positioned more central.

Despite the fact Ive been collecting them for years I really know very little about the lugged badges, they seam to be pretty much neglected everywhere I go and even in Australia. I`m waiting for Slick Mick to make a thread identifying all the different lug types used with a list of corresponding manufacturers hint hint

[Brodie_MK1]

Thankx for your reply.
So if i see it corectly you say that the badge with the slider is original WW1?
And the rest WW2

[Jibba Jabba]

I think so. I`m afraid I dont know much about the collars.

Stokes seamed to of made a fantastic amount of these badges. I dont think I have any embossed shoulder titles to them.

[blackdraggon11]

What you find in the fields of Pozieres in the 80ties leave in the fields

anyone have opinions on this,,
Aussie's well most anyway are rather touchy about this practice
cheers ted

[slick_mick]

Originally Posted by Jibba Jabba

Despite the fact Ive been collecting them for years I really know very little about the lugged badges, they seam to be pretty much neglected everywhere I go and even in Australia. I`m waiting for Slick Mick to make a thread identifying all the different lug types used with a list of corresponding manufacturers hint hint

Happy to take the hint I'll start a thread on lugs!

Mick

[slick_mick]

Originally Posted by blackdraggon11

What you find in the fields of Pozieres in the 80ties leave in the fields

anyone have opinions on this,,
Aussie's well most anyway are rather touchy about this practice
cheers ted

Sure - I don't see problem with that at all - certainly not a touchy issue with me or other badge collectors I have spoken too. Good luck in finding it - at least its now appreciated and not rusting away in some French field.

Mick

[Jibba Jabba]

I think we will just leave it at that, but I think what upsets the Australians is people removing badges from the dead bodies so it makes them harder for war graves to identify them as Australian soldiers. Cannot see any point in getting all muddy, when you can buy these badges for a few pounds anyway at most fairs!

[Brodie_MK1]

Originally Posted by blackdraggon11

What you find in the fields of Pozieres in the 80ties leave in the fields

anyone have opinions on this,,
Aussie's well most anyway are rather touchy about this practice
cheers ted

Well sorry i am not going to return it and i don't see any harm in taking something from the fields what lies on the ground.
I think its something diferent if you look with a detector and sell the things you find.

I will never sell any thing i would find.

[rumjar]

i would need a van to return my finds from the last 34years.

joe,liverpool.