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Old 28-03-14, 01:06 PM
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Was there any time or situation in which the 14/20th Hussars chromed their standard post-1931 eagle cap badges? And no, I'm not referring to the NCO's arm badge; the example I have is a completely untampered-with cap badge with a slider.
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Old 28-03-14, 01:17 PM
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They were mechanised as part of the RAC in WW2, and it was common for them to wear their own badge, but chromed.

14th/20th King’s Hussars, served in India, invasion of Persia, remained in the Middle East until the end of 1944, when it went to Italy.

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Old 28-03-14, 07:31 PM
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They were mechanised as part of the RAC in WW2, and it was common for them to wear their own badge, but chromed.

14th/20th King’s Hussars, served in India, invasion of Persia, remained in the Middle East until the end of 1944, when it went to Italy.

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That's an interesting statement could you please given me a reference which eludes to Chrome Cap badges being worn by the 14/20H?

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I'm guessing by inference that I may have put two and two together and got five?

This thread covers the use of Chrome badges within WW2 RAC.

http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/for...ghlight=chrome

This link shows the WW2 RAC units, of which 14/20 Hussars was one.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._World_War_Two

Happy to be corrected if I've made one assumption too far?

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Was there any time or situation in which the 14/20th Hussars chromed their standard post-1931 eagle cap badges? And no, I'm not referring to the NCO's arm badge; the example I have is a completely untampered-with cap badge with a slider.
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This is interesting, do you think you could post images of this badge front and rear please.

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I'm guessing by inference that I may have put two and two together and got five?

This thread covers the use of Chrome badges within WW2 RAC.

http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/for...ghlight=chrome

This link shows the WW2 RAC units, of which 14/20 Hussars was one.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._World_War_Two

Happy to be corrected if I've made one assumption too far?

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OK understood, no problem. In my experience assumption is the mother of all screw ups, that said, lets have a look at this badge if we can and go from there.
Has any other member come across a Chromed 14/20H Cap Badge?

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Old 28-03-14, 11:30 PM
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Thanks for all of this so far -- very interesting. I'll get an image up as soon as I can.
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Here it is.
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Old 29-03-14, 07:17 AM
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Here it is.
Thank you for posting your Badge, and I have to say IMO it looks a genuine example, very nice. If correct, I think this is a rare 'Hawk'

I've never seen one of these before, I will make some more enquiries and see if I can come up with more info and a firm period of wear

It may take a while but I will post my findings in due course.

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Old 29-03-14, 07:21 AM
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I'm guessing by inference that I may have put two and two together and got five?

This thread covers the use of Chrome badges within WW2 RAC.

http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/for...ghlight=chrome

This link shows the WW2 RAC units, of which 14/20 Hussars was one.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._World_War_Two

Happy to be corrected if I've made one assumption too far?

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I think you may well be right in your assumptions, having now seen the images I'm inclined to agree. It looks a cracking little badge to me.

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Old 29-03-14, 08:27 AM
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Thanks, Rob -- nice if it turns out to be a rare RAC version!
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Hi. Never seen a chrome cap badge - plenty of chrome arm badges but not cap badges. As far as I am aware 14/20H never wore a chrome cap badge. They were very proud of their brass or black Hawks.
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Thanks, Rob -- nice if it turns out to be a rare RAC version!
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What 'rhussar' has stated is very much in line with my findings having asked around, (collectors, dealers and the museum) nobody has any recollection of a 14/20H Chrome Cap Badge, and I can't find evidence of it being worn.

A couple of theories were muted, firstly it is one of a sample batch? or an individual had a cap badge chromed as 'a Saturday night special' !?
Though IMO both these suggestions are tenuous and probably impossible to substantiate.

So despite this being a nice looking badge, it could well be spurious.

If any further info comes to light I'll post it.

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Hi, having chromed badges was not the sole prerogative of RAC units. It was also done by many as a memento or sweethearts badge, so even having an RAC unit badge chromed is in itself not indicative of anything other than some form of decoration, Mike

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