RN Marksman Badges

[fez]

Hi all,
Can anyone tell me what date the RN marksman badges lost there slings ??
Thanks in advance,
Fez

[RBJ MIlitaria]

I think the versions without slings are Royal Marine issue

[sailorbear]

Originally Posted by RBJ MIlitaria

I think the versions without slings are Royal Marine issue

The one on the left is identical to the one I wore in the RN in the 90's
picture of me with said badge below.

Regards Tony

[sailorbear]

Here's a close up image of my badge (I still have it!)

Tony

[fez]

Originally Posted by sailorbear

Here's a close up image of my badge (I still have it!)

Tony

This is a pic of the marksman badge above my own, they are much bigger as per WW2. RM would make sense but i think i have seen this type on 70,s-80,s RN uniforms. So i was wondering if with the sling is wartime and without, wartime RM and post war RN ?? If so what date did they change ??
Fez

[Guzzman]

Fez

I have sent you a reply to your query.

Pete

[Guzzman]

Hi all

I have sent Fez a detailed reply to his query but I will provide a quick answer to put everyone out of their misery!

Both the copy of BR81 (uniform regulations) and BR1938 (naval ratings handbook) in use in 1983 show Marksman badges with slings. The copy of BR81 (revised 1984) shows the badge minus slings. It would therefore seem that slings were removed from the badge in 1984 (I seem to recall that there were a lot of little changes to badges, etc, around that time).

However, I should think that some badges with slings continued to be issued for a while after that.

Pete

[fez]

Originally Posted by Guzzman

Hi all

I have sent Fez a detailed reply to his query but I will provide a quick answer to put everyone out of their misery!

Both the copy of BR81 (uniform regulations) and BR1938 (naval ratings handbook) in use in 1983 show Marksman badges with slings. The copy of BR81 (revised 1984) shows the badge minus slings. It would therefore seem that slings were removed from the badge in 1984 (I seem to recall that there were a lot of little changes to badges, etc, around that time).

However, I should think that some badges with slings continued to be issued for a while after that.

Pete

Hi Pete,
Thanks for the reply, that makes sense that without slinge were worn in the 80,s but what about the crossed rifles without slings and a pre 53 crown above ???

[Sharkey]

An interesting (if now old) query that I came across.... my marksman's "course" (2-3 days if I remember correctly) was in 1967. I have pics showing me still wearing the sleeve badge - with slings - in 1977 and I continued to do so, until the rating of PO Artificer and onward. Because RN artificer uniforms were trade and service badge-less, it would have looked rather lonely and besides, on achieving Charge Chief Tiff: the area on the sleeve was taken over by the lion and crown badge ....which would then have looked even more ridiculous...!!

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