Private Frederick Joseph LAMB - 4th Bn East Surrey Regt

[bess55]

Indeed Mark, but like Steve - slightly odd when there is no known grave. If died of wounds, one would potentially expect a grave in a collection cemetery near to a dressing station etc.

It is of course difficult for us to understand the environment, situation and the fact that record keeping may not have been as accurate as we would hope.

[mm1]

Hi Sean,

many possibilities, but hopefully might be able to find something hidden in a record.

Mark

[oc14]

Originally Posted by bess55

Indeed Mark, but like Steve - slightly odd when there is no known grave. If died of wounds, one would potentially expect a grave in a collection cemetery near to a dressing station etc.

It is of course difficult for us to understand the environment, situation and the fact that record keeping may not have been as accurate as we would hope.

All the official records state “killed in action” and NOT “died of wounds”….where have you found any reference to “died of wounds”?

Paul

[bess55]

None at all, merely that he had no official grave and none 'known' or potentially buried somewhere in the desert (if at all) as it wouldnt have been practical or even possible to recover bodies no doubt.

[mike_vee]

Originally Posted by bess55

None at all, merely that he had no official grave and none 'known' or potentially buried somewhere in the desert (if at all) as it wouldnt have been practical or even possible to recover bodies no doubt.

Did a bit of research and found that 98 officers and men of the Royal Sussex Regiment (mainly 4th Battalion) are named on the Jerusalem Memorial.

5 Officers
9 NCO's
84 Men

I cross-checked with the CWGC site and found that 74 Royal Sussex Regiment died on 6/11/1917 and 21 are listed on the Memorial (17 from 4th Battalion and 4 from 16th "Sussex Yeo" Battalion) including :

Private Henry Larkin G/22204 (age 19).

Same age as Fredrick Lamb , service number immediately after his , died on same day and listed directely under Lamb on the memorial , I wonder if they were friends who enlisted together ?

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[bess55]

Thanks for that Mike.
Larkins parents were from Willesden it seems, so not too near Hackney, but still possible they knew each other. At the very least they surely enlisted at the same time and no doubt did their training together. And ultimately died in the same action together it seems.

[mike_vee]

Found this :

4th Battalion RSR War Diary 1915-19

Page 45 covers the 4th November 1917 - 8th November 1917 including , on the 6th :

The battalion advanced under a creeping barrage.....

....was strongly held , and was taken with the Bayonet by three coys.

http://www2.westsussex.gov.uk/learni...41e&version=-1


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[bess55]

Gentlemen, thanks all again, lots of good information

Much appreciated guys

Bess