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25 th Dragoons
For sale at present badge with a slider marked Butler 48 Victoria street Birmingham If Peter Seaman sees this post could comment on this. A maker I have not seen before or is not listed in the makers mark section
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I have seen the MM, but only on reproduction items, it is not a mark which should appear on a WRC badge!
Andy |
#48
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Locally made 25th Dragoons cap badge
Hi all,
Here is what I think to be a locally made in India 3 piece 25th Dragoons Bm cap badge with clipped slider. It measures 35.6x26.5mm. Peter Seaman in 'for Hostilities Only' shows and describes locally made 25th badges in 3 pieces (Figures 51 & 52). Figure 52 is closest with the scroll ends go beyond the scabbards. The sizes are approximate I note. These are described with loops and so the (clipped) slider version I had not encountered. Cheers Dean |
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25tg Dragoons reverse
Reverse
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#50
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Dean,
There are a great number of variations (some more subtle than others) of Indian made 25th Dragoons badges, they come on both loops (undoubtedly used for both cap and collars) and to a lesser extent on vertical shanks/sliders which can vary in length from what you would expect to find on a UK made badge to quite short examples. Your badge is a genuine one. Kind Regards, FMT600 |
#51
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That's very nice and getting much harder to find these days.
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#52
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There are just so many Indian made badges for this particular regiment, about the best I have seen attached on left, a typical example made here, for comparison at right.
Last edited by Frank Kelley; 20-04-16 at 06:07 PM. |
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Thanks Frank,
There is considerable differences between them, I appreciate the differences in quality better now, cheers Dean. |
#54
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Hi Dean,
A cracking badge! And, in my opinion a badge that emulates the J.R. Gaunt pattern on closer inspection, alas not Fig. 52 & 56, which incidentally would appear to be the same pattern badge. That is, I believe your badge is a cast example taken from the UK Gaunt produced badge. I've personally seem more examples of this pattern with the loops, and to my knowledge - to date - it is one of only two Indian made pattern 25D badges adorning a slider; the other rather scarce badge being portrayed by Frank. Unfortunately, my phone doesn't appear to be compatible with the Forum, so I will endeavour to post some detailed comparison pictures of the UK and Indian made badge. Best, Marcus |
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UK, Gaunt and Indian made badge.
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#56
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Indian: lugged and slider.
These two are representative, as I have three of each pattern/type. |
#57
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The Indian ''emulation'' scroll is on top.
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#58
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The reverse of the hilt on both patterns of badge showing the casting effects; also, the ''Gaunt-notch'' found on many genuine Gaunt 25D badges from the ORs to officers' examples, and hence replicated on the Indian castings too.
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#59
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And, even the trait in the form of the ''slope'' observed on the single middle numeral can be seen featured on the Indian badge.
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